A couple questions/tips

[Rob44]

Hi,

I have been studying Frank's phasing model of consciousness for a good while now (I have hand-written notes of the key points  -- 80 pages at least) and I feel I have a firm grasp on what the action of phasing entails; i.e the dynamics of WHY it works.

However, as I read Frank's posts from (then) and (now) a few questions arise. For example, in 2002 frank was asked about his mental run-down with track 2 of the Gateway experience. Weather or not one should aim for the first-person, or the 3rd person. This particular person was confused as Frank did not clearly specify. Then, frank replied as follows:

"The point at which you are, when you are looking at yourself doing whatever it is you happen to be doing, is your focal point of consciousness. Ideally, this should be within the body of light (or whatever style body it is you are imagining) but it doesn't matter if it's a bit half and half. "

However, later on, in 2005, he says one should aim for a 1st person view. As his knowledge as expanded, I will take the latter approach. He wasn't too clear in the former, anyway.  But here is my question:

When you are imaging something in your mind, i.e. not really "seeing it" but more-so ""sensing it" where should this "imaginary rundown" take place? In front of your physical eyes? I mean, for example, right now, I can imagine holding an orange. I can hold the orange to the right of me, in the side of me, to the back of me etc.,.al.  

If I try to do the rundown, in the first person, directly in front of my physical eyes, I tend to keep an awareness of my physical body. It's always shifting however. I can start it in one place, with good intentions of keeping it there, but it always seems to switch. I can't keep it stable; very frustrating.

One last question: I have heard over and over again "you create your own reality." Everything? For instance, frank says from the F4 perspective, there is no such thing as time. In infinity everything happens an infinite number of times. Everything that has happened already has, everything that is happening, already happened, and everything that will happen, has as well; an an infinite number of times each. So my question is: if we assume this is true, that every single possibility that can be played out on C1 happens on an on-going basis an infinite number of times, if my mother dies, or I meet person who has serious medical issues, did I create that?

I tend to look at it, like: Well, yes, we both did. I let the possibility occur in my life, and whomever else also let such occur in his/her life. And we met on a common ground down the line. However, in a different probability, things could be different. In a sense, I did create it in my life. But the person I "happened" to meet, also did, in whatever situation they find themselves in. Are these other probabilities, that we choose not to experience, being played out by other "selves" or are they just there for the taking? And furthermore, if there is no time, then I assume the "past" can be changed? And we just therefore have no objective knowing of it?

Second, a little input for the board:

I have been a fan of Jane Robert's for some time. I have read a few of "her" books (she was channeled by an entity called "seth" for those who don't know) and I find it very interesting, and happen to coincide with what Frank talks about. I find them extremely difficult to keep up with/understand. I do however get some insights from reading them now and again. Here is a link I recommend for everybody:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5484/quotes.htm

Also, I have not yet been able to phase directly into F2 from waking consciousness, as you may have guessed, lol, but I do have quite a few number of lucid dreams.

I found myself in a dream 2 nights ago. My father was standing there, and I thought, (as I read previously) aspects of yourself can serve a specific purpose. So I asked him to take me to F3. I grabbed his hands, he said I'll try, and he counted 1-2-3 and said "off we go" as we both jumped in unison. I looked around, and we were in the same place. It was hysterical, to be sure.

In the back of my mind I never expected it to work, I guess. So I thought, OK, well, I'll solicit the help of a "more advanced" aspect. I turned around and saw a door, and I "knew" an aspect was going to walk through it. Sure enough, that's exactly what happened. I expected it to happen 100% - and that's the key here. You can't doubt it.

I took her hands, and we whooshed off. I was in pure darkness, and I felt like I was going to slip and fall, but I could feel her hands holding mine, this lasted I would say for what seemed like 30 seconds, and I sorta "popped" into this complex, that looked like an apartment complex. Lots of people milling around, but I did not pay much attention. As I realized I was in a new environment, I was amazed at how clear and lucid I felt. It felt exactly like I was in my physical body, yet I knew I was not.

I was taken a-back. For, I felt like I was physical, yet I was not. It felt like how I feel right now as I type. Major revelation. Up to that point, my lucid dreams have been "foggy" as I call them.

Anyway, there was this chap there, a male, about my age. I do not know where he come from, but I talked to him like I knew him (I wasn't really thinking about it all that much). I asked him a few questions, and he laughed at me, because I guess he knew I was so astounded by the fact how "real everything was" I remember he remarked "first-timers." I kind of lost it from that point, experiencing an F3/F2 overlay. I then woke up. My lucid dreams are short-lived to begin with, but this was longer than 90% of them - as I see it.

As I have never "been" to F3 before, this could have been an F2 experience. I do not know. I could not keep my cool, I was so in awe. Pretty neat, though. As I woke up, I realized I was not "all there." This tends to happen to me in all my lucid dreams. During them, I feel totally lucid, nevertheless when I wake up, I think "damn it - did it again." That's why I am so fantasizing by phasing. To retain my waking consciousness.

A tip: The reason I have so many lucid dreams is not beaucse I do reality checks, or even have a dream journal, but because, every single second of waking life, I am thinking "this is an illusion" -- in the sense that, what we are experiencing here, on earth, is just an objective translation of an underlying subjective reality that we all share in common. When you feel that, and know it on a gut level, you have just conquered a major stumbling block. As Major Tom points out.

Thank you in advance,

-Rob

[Selski]

Hi Rob

As you probably know, the best person to respond to your post isn't around anymore and possibly the next best person hasn't been seen for a while (Major Tom), so bearing this in mind, I thought I'd give it a shot, as I'm a Frank fan and I was fortunate enough to correspond with him for a number of months, so I've got a lot of "Frank" not only on paper, but in my head!  

However, a lot of it I still don't fully understand even though he made it as simple as possible for me.  

Let us begin.

When you are imaging something in your mind, i.e. not really "seeing it" but more-so ""sensing it" where should this "imaginary rundown" take place? In front of your physical eyes? I mean, for example, right now, I can imagine holding an orange. I can hold the orange to the right of me, in the side of me, to the back of me etc.,.al.  

If I try to do the rundown, in the first person, directly in front of my physical eyes, I tend to keep an awareness of my physical body. It's always shifting however. I can start it in one place, with good intentions of keeping it there, but it always seems to switch. I can't keep it stable; very frustrating.

I think that it should take place wherever you are most comfortable with it taking place.  You say it keeps shifting – if you let it shift and simply observe what 'it' is doing, does it eventually settle in one place?  

The thing is, once you start experiencing it from a 1st person perspective, you will lose your physical body sensations, in so much that you have actually phased.  However when you start practicing, what happens is you suddenly realise that you are in 1st person and the realisation tends to jolt you back to 3rd person.  

Like you, I also tend to put my mental rundown in front of my physical eyes – it seems natural and I hadn't even thought about where it is, until I read your post.  I find it hard to not be aware of my physical head, but the more you practice, the easier it does become.  I actually find the mental rundown quite hard work – the rewards are miniscule compared to the effort put in, in my opinion.  It's great when you do find yourself in the scenery, but it's so damn brief because you get all excited and realise you've done it, and with that you're back before you can even look around.  Still now, after all this time, I haven't cracked that one.

The other thing is that it doesn't matter if you are still aware of your physical body.  You don't have to lose all awareness of it.  It's not necessary.  In one of my very early "astral screen" experiences, I was awake and very much aware of the physical.  I'm not saying I was ironing at the time   – but I was able to slowly zoom between being physical and wandering around in the screen.  It was one of my best experiences, and when I told Frank about it, he confirmed that it wasn't necessary to lose all awareness, he even said that retaining awareness was quite an advanced thing to do.  Ha, and I did it naturally!  Can I repeat it though?  Not a chance.  

The other thing I would say too, while I'm at it, is to throw away any ideas/thoughts/expectations you have about the whole thing, including everyone else's experiences, that includes Frank, Major Tom and anyone else you feel aligned too.  Oh, that includes me too, and everything I say, including this.     The best way to start experiencing for yourself is to simply lie back, relax and see what happens.  It's the best piece of advice Frank ever gave me.  He was forever saying, "Just do it, Sarah – just do it."  Of course, it took months for me to understand.  I kept following his guidance and doing the noticing exercise, etc etc, and would have very little success.  Whenever I simply allowed myself to float off and enjoy whatever was happening – invariably my successes were greater.  Took months for that to sink in.  

So these days, I rarely do a mental rundown.  I occasionally do the noticing exercise – I like it for itself, nothing more and if anything more happens, then great.  

I digress.

One last question: I have heard over and over again "you create your own reality." Everything? For instance, frank says from the F4 perspective, there is no such thing as time. In infinity everything happens an infinite number of times. Everything that has happened already has, everything that is happening, already happened, and everything that will happen, has as well; an an infinite number of times each. So my question is: if we assume this is true, that every single possibility that can be played out on C1 happens on an on-going basis an infinite number of times, if my mother dies, or I meet person who has serious medical issues, did I create that?

Well, according to Frank, yes, everything.  However, that is Frank's take on it, his perspective, his perception of Focus 4.  If you or I experience Focus 4, we may have a different view, so I would keep an open mind about everything Frank said, because when all said and done, they were his experiences, not yours, not mine.

With regards to Seth, I know Frank had read them and was encouraged to find Seth's comments matched Frank's experiences.  

Now to your dream.

Is your father still alive?  Perhaps he simply doesn't know what "F3" is.  But I think you're right – your doubt blocked anything happening.

I'm amazed you are doubting the second time.  That sounds to be like a classic F2 to F3 experience.  The chap you met was probably Frank!   :joker3:

The general consensus that tends to set F3 apart from F2 is the clarity, the sheer 3-dimensional reality of it, it's just like you say, you feel totally physical and incredibly clear-headed.  Colours are vibrant, the environment is stable, people are "real", they say things unexpected or act independently of you.  You tend to know that you are not in a self-made dream environment – it's something intuitive.

Anyway, thank you for sharing.  I hope I've been of some help!  

Sarah