Nausea in the first atempt tp OBE

[Tisha]

hoooohahahahah (laughing at myself) I so resemble your remarks!  I get the queasy feeling too.  I find that by reassuring myself that everything is okay, my stomach will settle down to normal.

It might be a combination of your Astral body loosening itself from the physical, and your anxiety over the strangeness of that feeling.

As for the difference between AP and OBE, do a search on Adrian's recent posts; he described it very well.  Generally if you launch out of your physical body, fully aware, and find yourself as a ghost in your bedroom, that's an OBE.  An astral projection is more like projecting your consciousness into another realm.

hope this helps,

[Kazbadan]

So, is that sensation normal? I feeled real bad! Now i´m completly restored . This night i will try other AP.In the last time i have done it during the day, so i hope that i wont feel any nausea now, since after the experiment i will get sleep[].

How many times have you feeled that nausea? Every time that you tried it? Have you eaten anything before ?

BTW: thank you for you last answer. At least I know that the sensation it´s somehow normal.

BTW2: Do you know treatesi on OBE´s from R.Bruce? Do you think that it worth print it (it´s 100 pages [:O])?

thanks

[Willoc]

If you read the NEW: New Energy Ways training guide you will see a mention that pushing yourself too far with energy work (powering your etheric body) can cause physical fatigue, depression, ill feeling etc.

I notice that when I try too hard to OBE sometimes that I feel VERY fatigued when I fail and give up after an hour.  The key is to be persistent but not pushing yourself; as always, an equilibrium must be reached.

[curiousgirl]

my first actual OBE where i knew what was going on, i got very sick feeling when i came back to my body.  my first two OBE's that i had were accidental, and i didn't know they were OBE's, and i just kinda sat there.  this one, even though i got into that state accidently, i knew i was having one and actually got up and walked around the room and stuff.  when i hopped back into my body, i felt extremely strange, like someone had drugged me.  i felt nauseated, i was shaking, and my body felt strange, almost distorted when i would feel my face and stuff.  it was like my body felt really strange on me.  after a while, though i felt normal again.  perhaps sometimes it takes a bit of time for your astral body to get perfectly aligned with your physical body again or something like that, so everything's all kind of out of whack.  but i really don't know much at this point... i'm still working on having another one after that one!

[Kazbadan]

After my failed experiment i felt ( never know if it´s felt or feeled- my english is bad) myself with nauseas and I didn´t have any OBE. But i think that it was good feeling that, because now i´m more prepared for what it could happen to me if i get OBE.

It´s interesting that the feeling was when i´m sick! Maybe my body drained all the energys in the experiment, and for that reason the feeling was bad.

I think it´s better to start being more relaxed and "let it go" instead of forcing it.

[Tisha]

I tried again last night and thought I was going to BARF!  I would settle it down and then it would swell up again.  I gave up and went to sleep.

Perhaps my energy is too "low" for me to succeed at projecting an etheric double.

By the way, I very much enjoyed AstralDynamics.  However, if money is tight for you, print his online (free) Treatise instead, for now, and then you can decide for yourself.  As for me, I'm an insane book collector, so I'd always just rather have the book!

[shadowatcher]

Ussually, when I feel intense feelings of Nauseasness (spelling?) its because I tried to enter (or leave) Astral Consciousness to quickly. I find it very useful to slowly enter or exit. Kazbadan, it sounds like you slowly tried to enter astral consciousness, then rushed out. Balance is key. And thats my rant for today!

[Kazbadan]

The first time that i tried to OBE i take about an hour and i didn´t get nothing. After the experiment, when i was coming back to my normal life, i started to get very qualmish (i think is that the word), feeling nauseas (real bad) almost vomiting. I was very weak and feeling my body strange, very nervous. I must say that i have started the experiment very energetic and with a strong will
I get with that feeling in my body some more hours, and today i awakened with weakness.

Wich is the reason for that? Now i´m disapointed and somehow nervous, when i think on trying to OBE again. Can you explain me what happened?

By the way, wich is the difference between OBE into the Real Time Zone and to have an AP? In the last post from Ticha I noticed that there is a difference. Wich one?!

thanks