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Title: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: ladyicetree on July 09, 2012, 14:48:19
Hello All,  If anyone could give some advice I would really appreciate it.  Up until a few days ago I didn't even know there was a specific name for this.  I have had these dreams as long as I can remember and I would love to have them stop! Thank you.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: Szaxx on July 09, 2012, 16:20:59
Hi and welcome to the Pulse.
You may need to be a little more specific. Dreams as a title is large when attempting to understand your issue.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: ladyicetree on July 09, 2012, 17:08:59
Sorry, I will try to explain.  I have a reaccuring dream, since I have been a child.  I am walking down an overgrown path with wheat growing up very high on the land, in the distance I can see an old homestead, it has an old post fence that is broken and this black bird sits upon it.  The window on the one side is broke. I start to walk down the path and then I begin to run.  After a short while I reach the fence and my feet come out from under me, I begin to fly at this point, becoming the bird.  I can see myself from above standing just outside the fence,  I can feel my wings flapping and the sensation of height and movement. I always land on the windowsill just outside the broken pane of glass.  Sometimes there is a candle burning and  I  can see people.  Sometimes it is people I know ,sometimes it is people I will meet.  It is almost like being a fly on the wall.  The disturbing part for me is sometimes I see things I would rather not know.  When it is happy news, or things and its not so bad.  Other times I would rather forget. I am trying to wake myself up at the point of seeing this field in my dreams with little success.  Any help to stop would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: Szaxx on July 09, 2012, 17:37:46
Hi,
The content of the 'information' gleaned from these dreams is different each time they occur.
There seems to be subject matter that is unknown at the time of the dream.
Its very emotional in context and never has one part of the 'information' been incorrect.
The time delay between gaining the info and it 'occuring' is fixed within a fraction of this time.
You've already said you cant stop it.

Is all the above applicable to your dream or parts of it?
Im trying to understand the depth of it. If theres anything else thats consistant (there should be), post it in your reply please.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: ladyicetree on July 09, 2012, 18:24:34
The scenes I see through the window always occur.   Then in my life, It may not happen for months, but it has always been proven to be true.  Sometimes it is just small little things,  like finding something someone has misplaced. In the dream I cannot in my human form, go past the fence.  If the bird is not there the dream continues with me walking back up the road.  What ever I see in that window comes to pass. I cannot change it in my dream or my life.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: Lionheart on July 09, 2012, 19:47:58
Quote from: ladyicetree on July 09, 2012, 18:24:34
  What ever I see in that window comes to pass. I cannot change it in my dream or my life.  Hope this helps.
From this quote here I would say that you need to see these things. That it is either part of your "healing" or part of your development in life.
Whenever you see this scene begin to materialize, take control of it and deter it to another scenario. If it keeps making it's way back to the original scene, then there is really something you need to learn from this. Your "higher self" per say has decided that you must go through this to grow. Unfortunately not all growth in life comes from butterflies and blue skies. Sometime we learn more from the "harsh" lessons in life.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: Szaxx on July 10, 2012, 02:12:37
Hi,
You may find this to be something bad. Its really not bad at all. You may need to get in before you can get out. As you can't  enter the window scene in human form then immediately you become aware of this dream you need a strong intent on walking away from the window. Know you're going to do this and know the bird is not waiting. A cat in the locality of the post would be enough to scare the bird away. Think a cat will be close and know you're going to see one.
With these dreams there becomes a point of no return and once past that point you are a part of it and no control or exit from it can occur. Its like a rollercoaster once it starts to move, thats it, you're in for the ride.
I have these dreams on occasion and I am at the scene of the 'event', usually an item for headline news. Thats the info I originally asked for while in F21 meditation. Unfortunately the scenes were mostly aircraft crashes. Actually being there seeing everything an knowing everyones thoughts get to you somewhat. Now I can pull out of them if so desired at any point upto the no return place.
This type of dream is giving you some info that you've asked for at some point. Can you remember wanting to know something in the past just before sleep. This desire would have been very strong too. Finding the source you can change everything about this problem. The above few suggestions may work but need to be in place before your no return spot is reached. Your thoughts have to be very strong, you dont try it and see, you know it will work and be that convinced nothing will stop it not working. A strong intent works wonders within.
Have you tried anything from the above?
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: ladyicetree on July 10, 2012, 08:29:23
Hi, You describe it very well, It is exactly like watching a movie.  I am never in it.(or never have been as of yet.)  I am 50 yrs old and I have had these dreams since 10 yrs. that I can remember with clarity. Sometimes it is just a snippet of someones life.  My gramdmothers bedside at passing,  an event in someones life.  The stadium bleachers at school collapsing. Sometimes I have the sensation of sharing feelings with the person. 
     I never thought I was "asking for any of this info" .  I don't really care about who won the UFC fight! ( Don't ask that was a weird one) You are correct that once I am the bird I am along for the ride like it or not.  I guess maybe some quiet thought before I sleep,maybe working on meditation? I also like the idea of a cat.  How could I place it there? What do I do about the things I really don't want to see in the window while I work at this?  Exploring the source as you call it, sounds like it could help or at least find a way to cope.  Thanks
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: Pauli2 on July 10, 2012, 10:06:29
Quote from: ladyicetree on July 09, 2012, 17:08:59
I have a reaccuring dream, since I have been a child. . . . Any help to stop would be appreciated.

The late Robert Monroe (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/robert_monroe_journeys_trilogy-t32072.0.html) had a recurring dream described in Ultimate Journey. The dreams
stopped coming back once Monroe started having his out of body experiences (OBEs).

See Ultimate Journey, page 148 & 170. One of Monroe's guides tells Monroe, during
one of Monoroe's OBEs that the recurring dreams were "practice sessions", when
Monroe went to his guides (or their region) during sleep.

Could your recurring dreams be some kind of practice you get for becoming skilled in
remote viewing or training to see into the future?
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: Szaxx on July 10, 2012, 14:10:43
Hi,
Im older and have had the same experience. I could project out of the physical at night often from my earliest memories. I used to see lines moving infront of me similar to lined paper and these on occasion got messed up into a ball of wool effect. I had to straighten them back to neat lines again. I've no idea what these were all about and my brother who I had taken from sleep on some trips also had these dreams. Have you had them?
Another question re Pauli's above post. Have you ever experienced an out of body event where you know it wasn't a dream?
This info will help me give a tailored answer.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: ladyicetree on July 10, 2012, 17:24:30
I have never had, a dream like that.  I have never taken anyone with me, but have seen some part of thier life or emotion at a certain time.  Like a play going on.  Never any lines unless you would count the wheat field I fly over.  Sometimes this ripples in the wind,  or is barren when it is winter.  Does this make sense?  I never gave it any thought that it wouldn't be a dream.  I do see myself standing at the gate  when I am the black bird.  My body at the gate cannot move.  What is projection?  I will probably read a bit about Robert Monroe.
Title: Re: Advice and thoughts appreciated
Post by: Szaxx on July 10, 2012, 19:16:45
Hi,
The overall scene is the date stamp. The details are relevant to that through the window. I assume thats as far as you get. Never entered the room or had any communication.
Ok on the lines, someone who knows me understands these, time will tell.
Projection relates to an earlier question. Its having an 'adventure' while sleeping where you know its not a dream. It would feel like you're awake. Typical ones happen first thing in the morning when you get up try to do something normal that doesn't happen. Next thing you're awake again and still in bed.
The latter is called a false awakening.
Reading may help you understand more.
Ill read your posts again and find a pattern that can be used.
Thanks.