In my dreams I talk about it, but I don’t do it..

[Seeker75]

Hello,

this one confuses me: I (still) try to achieve an astral projection since many years, the only thing I managed to experience though are lucid dreams.
(I believe that these are also genuine out-of-body-experiences, so I don't want to lessen their value by any means - I just also want to experience something more in the line of ,,floating out of the body" ^^)

So, after more than a dozen lucid dreams it suddenly stopped again, and since several months nothing more happens.

But: in my dreams I frequently talk about lucid dreams and astral projection with dream characters, why I want to achieve it and that it doesn't work yet.


Why don't I achieve (any more) lucid dreams and no AP at all, despite all the related work and meditation and stuff, but ,,talk" about it?
If I talk about it, my subconscious seems to understand very well what I want, yet it just let me ,,talk" about it in my dreams?

Any ideas?

[LightBeam]

Hi Seeker,

You are the only one who can answer that question, as the reasons why you are struggling to achieve what you want are many. I would suggest during meditation to ask that question to your higher self with open mind and from a neutral point of view. You may not receive an answer immediately. Don't insist on immediate answer either. Relax and go on with your day, but watch for synchronicities and signs. Pay attention. Answers may come in many forms. Sometimes the first thought that pops into our mind is the answer, sometimes we may see something on TV or read something that gives clues.
Also, imagine you have a full blown AP. What would you expect to experience? Please describe. How do you feel about APs?

On the other hand, have you tried all techniques that have been discussed here (check the stickies), and given at least 2 months trying each of them, one at a time following the steps precisely and consistently?

[Seeker75]

LightBeam, thanks for your kind response!

Yes, I tried literally each and every technique during the past 10 years (following a pretty strict 3-months-per-technique rule, especially during the past few years).

I had, in fact, one short AP-success some years ago (while chanting the mantra FARAON before sleep in the evening, where I suddenly flew out of the body and instantly woke up. This never happened again since, though)

But, it's not so much about techniques and such why I asked, I follow the western (occult) path nowadays and feel that I'm on a good way, so to say. 
Dreams in which I speak about AP and lucid dreams are more common in the meanwhile, so I stay patient and confident.

It's rather the fact THAT I speak about these topics in my dreams, without getting lucid, which amazes me so much.

I really wonder about my subconscious and am curious if someone else experienced the same.
Perhaps before finally achieving an AP, as some sort of presage.

PS: your idea to ask for insights, during meditation, is a good one, unfortunately I am ,,non-sensitive" to such intuitions / inspirations.
I tried it many times - before sleep, during meditations - but if I receive(d) answers, I simply don't recognize(d) them. 
No chance for me to tell the difference between ,,external" message and random thoughts of myself.

[LightBeam]

unfortunately I am ,,non-sensitive" to such intuitions / inspirations.

You see, this belief has created the perception that you can't use intuition. But this is just an illusion. However, you made it real for you. Ask yourself why do you have that belief? What do you think it serves you? Do you have fears of APs and the unknown. Do you have any fears that if you get to see deeper within yourself you may see something you don't want to see?  I am just throwing ideas, because there is a reason you have chosen to block flow of information and by extension blocking APs as well. You need to analyze your perception of yourself, how do you see the world, do you see negativity, are you afraid of negative energies, possessions, ghosts, aspects of yourself you are afraid of, etc. Bring everything to the surface to look at it holistically to be able to figure it out.

[Seeker75]

I know what you mean and you're right, for sure.
It's something I tried to figure out some time ago, already, for myself, after diving into manifestation, Law of Attraction, Shifting etc.

I don't fear the Darkness, nor demons or anything similar (I already had some contact to these entities during my ritual work and don't believe in the common conditioning of ,,good" angels and "evil" demons).
I am also no negative person.
So, the only thing that comes into my mind is what you mentioned yourself: limiting believes.

Well, after a long period of affirmations and mental work in regards to Neville Goddard, Joseph Murphy and others I still haven't achieved to - truly - believe in myself, so this might indeed be the main reason. 

Thanks for that reminder, I have to work more on that aspect again.