How come whole world isn't talking about this?

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FateBender

Now forgive me if I come off as skeptical (I'm not. I fully believe in everything OOB-related), but if all this OOB stuff is legit, how come whole world doesn't know it? I mean yeah not everyone can achieve it but shouldn't it be like more widely known in world?

Xanth

Quote from: FateBender on October 09, 2014, 08:51:39
Now forgive me if I come off as skeptical (I'm not. I fully believe in everything OOB-related), but if all this OOB stuff is legit, how come whole world doesn't know it? I mean yeah not everyone can achieve it but shouldn't it be like more widely known in world?
The whole world does know of it, but most "people" are too materialistically inclined in order to pay much attention to it.

Humans love to keep their heads in the dirt regarding things that, ultimately, scare them.

Learning to Project is really an individual venture.  Each person moves along at their own pace.  I do dare to say that there are more people today actively researching and attempting this stuff, but it's still the vast majority.  The majority won't pick it up until science starts to delve into it in a more consistent and serious way. 

Until then, there are those of us like myself whose aim is to teach whoever is willing to learn.  :)


soarin12

Because it's not provable.  If it were easier to see the physical world from the out of body state then everyone would be talking about it.  Getting validations (like the playing card experiment where you put a card that is unknown to you somewhere in the room and then go OOB and read the card) is very difficult, and experiments along these lines don't turn up enough evidence to prove anything to scientists.

Most people know of the phenomenon of OBEs and especially lucid dreaming, but just chalk it up to 'dreams' -a brain thing - because of lack of any solid proof that it is more than that.

You really have to experience it yourself to get the proof of a wider reality.

Sagar

I actually think there are definitely people who haven't even heard of it. 
But knowledge of it seems to be growing at an astounding pace.  Even on social media - that's actually how I learned of it.

Quote from: FateBender on October 09, 2014, 08:51:39
I mean yeah not everyone can achieve it

Everyone can achieve it.  Not only that, but everyone does it already - when we're sleeping.
Ever wonder what dreams are?  :-)
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Bluefirephoenix

Actually this is commonly known and talked about. But not everyone uses the ame language and terms to do so. Its like mediumship here. most people believe. but you dont see groups of people with that interest Its almost taboo to talk publically about the afterlife and mediumship

Xanth

Quote from: Bluefirephoenix on October 09, 2014, 22:45:57
Actually this is commonly known and talked about. But not everyone uses the ame language and terms to do so. Its like mediumship here. most people believe. but you dont see groups of people with that interest Its almost taboo to talk publically about the afterlife and mediumship.
Bluefirephoenix makes a great point here: Language.

There is such a divide, even within the members of this very forum, about what certain terms and phrases mean.
It makes it extremely hard to bring together the community as a whole in order to teach... but, that doesn't stop us from trying.  :)

Szaxx

For worldwide acceptance some top respected scientists need to write a paper proving its existance. This like most promoted technologies requires Mr Rich to make billions out of it.
This is the main problem as materialistic mindsets endorse profiteering before anything else.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Bluefirephoenix

I think that's a minority though You hear about them more from press but the vast majority of people believe in dreams and astral experiences of various sorts. Since I've been to Nova Scotia I've only run into one or two people who expressly did not believe anything

Blue Glitter Neon

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Quote from: Sagar on October 09, 2014, 11:44:02
I actually think there are definitely people who haven't even heard of it. 
But knowledge of it seems to be growing at an astounding pace.  Even on social media - that's actually how I learned of it.

Here's one. A year ago i had never heard of Astral Projection or if I encountered the term I completely mistook it for some New Age BS. And I consider myself to be "with it" on social media and stuff.

Xanth

Quote from: Blue Glitter Neon on October 13, 2014, 13:22:48
Here's one. A year ago i had never heard of Astral Projection or if I encountered the term I completely mistook it for some New Age BS. And I consider myself to be "with it" on social media and stuff.
See, that's the problem with language...
If you've heard of "Lucid dreaming" then you HAVE heard of it.  :)

Fourthdimension

Not only is it about the constraints of language but its also about misunderstandings in relation to ideology and because of the overlay of modern BS that gives people the impression that we are all loony. For instance modern tv shows ghosts and vampires and cults start pretending they can do black magic and then to top it all off everyone knows people whom are bullied at school and go around pretending they  hear god or that they can read minds and we are associated with these types of idiots so of course nobody will take us serious until we can show society that we are a scientific based belief system whom are not blindly believing nor dismissing the religous significance of projection but instead we are pioneers, explorers trying to uncover what it is that we are experiencing
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Kzaal

The truth is not unveiled to those who are not ready to understand it.
Even if a scientist prove it does exist it might make people attempt to do Astral Projection more...
It doesn't mean people are ready to change their ways of living for it.

To me as long as you keep the people around you aware of it, it's really the only thing that matters.
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full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

no_leaf_clover

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I've been noticing more and more lately that questions like these reflect the person who is asking the question or making the statement more than the subject at hand.

So, "Why doesn't everybody know about this?" really means something kind of like, "I've never seen or heard much about this myself."


We're more plugged in to things that interest us or that we think about a lot.  Something may interest other people greatly, even millions or billions of people, that we may know relatively little about.  It just happens this way.

Another example of this is along the lines of, you see a strange word for the first time and learn what it means, and now you've seen it like 5 times in a row.  Or you begin to learn about a foreign culture and suddenly you see references to it all over the place.  Or you buy a new green Jeep, and now when you ride around you seem to see green Jeeps everywhere, and you never remember seeing any before.  This says more about what's going on in the consciousness of the individual than the "exterior world" I think.


So welcome to the reality of out of body experiences!  XD
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sirkgarf

I think the reason why is this not so popular is because it will change everything upside down. Most people believe in science only. I dont mean to say science is wrong, but it only matters in the physical world and it can not give explanation to the OBE. If you think about it, this can change the whole world, the history, the chemistry, the phisics, religion etc.