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Astralkm8

Hello, ive been trying AP off and on for quite a while now, and last night it just kinda hit me to give it another shot. So i closed my eyes and took deep breaths and started counting to 100. I remember getting a small vibration as normal and then dozing off and on, losing count, and then restarting at the number i thought i was at. after about 20 mins of doing this i entered what seemed to be a dream. I didnt feel any more vibrations but i just remember sitting at the computer typing and looking down and thinking how real it felt, and then within the next 5 seconds i woke up again. Would this be AP? im just not quite sure.. I've had a lot of trouble lately trying to AP. People say i need to enter sleep paralysis first, but i either lay there for 45 mins with nothing happening, or i fall asleep. Does anyone have any techniques? also something very important i should mention, that seems to pose a problem a lot is that i have a deviated septum which means that its difficult for me to breathe through my nose. ill end up having to get surgery for it. Anyways. i breathe through my mouth and everytime i have to swallow i have to shut my mouth and then swallow. could this be interupting the process? is there a way around this?

Lookedynamixhales

Sometimes this happens to me I will basically be attempting a conscious exit and well I will drift into a very vivid dream scenario becoming conscious of it after a couple seconds and then come back round with extreme vibrations and signs which indicate I should be able to leave the physical but I fail every time when this happens not quite sure while...regarding whether its projection or not I don't think it fully is more of a partial lucid dream...some people class lucid dreaming and astral projection as the same thing so its perspective try tweaking your technique I get better results with visualizing tbh...

Xanth

Quote from: Astralkm8 on October 07, 2013, 17:25:40
Hello, ive been trying AP off and on for quite a while now, and last night it just kinda hit me to give it another shot. So i closed my eyes and took deep breaths and started counting to 100. I remember getting a small vibration as normal and then dozing off and on, losing count, and then restarting at the number i thought i was at. after about 20 mins of doing this i entered what seemed to be a dream. I didnt feel any more vibrations but i just remember sitting at the computer typing and looking down and thinking how real it felt, and then within the next 5 seconds i woke up again. Would this be AP? im just not quite sure.. I've had a lot of trouble lately trying to AP. People say i need to enter sleep paralysis first, but i either lay there for 45 mins with nothing happening, or i fall asleep. Does anyone have any techniques? also something very important i should mention, that seems to pose a problem a lot is that i have a deviated septum which means that its difficult for me to breathe through my nose. ill end up having to get surgery for it. Anyways. i breathe through my mouth and everytime i have to swallow i have to shut my mouth and then swallow. could this be interupting the process? is there a way around this?
Quite frankly, most people haven't a clue what projection is... hell, don't even listen to me.  LoL  :)

But in any case, yes, what you experienced was a projection... a short one, but it was one.

As for the nose breathing problem... simple solution: don't break through your nose.  You don't have to do anything any specific way in order to project.  If you can fall asleep at night, you can project, it's really that simple.  If you ever need to take care of any interruption, just resolve it slowly and calmly and go back to whatever it was you were doing.  :)

Lionheart

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Quote from: Xanth on October 10, 2013, 19:58:46
Quite frankly, most people haven't a clue what projection is... hell, don't even listen to me.  LoL  :)
This is where the biggest problem with AP lies!  :-o


Frozen Spirit

My biggest problem when having my first experiences was I was trying to follow an A-Z step-by-step "do exactly what it says" checklist guide.  The fact of the matter is, you can use any technique in the book as a reference, but you have to make it your own and adjust it accordingly.  Astral Projection is a very personal, very spiritual thing and what works for one person may not work for another. 

So my suggestion and here me out on this and give it a try:

For the next technique you want to use, read it fully and then take 1 thing about it and change it.  Make it custom tailored just for you.  Something maybe no one else has thought of.  Give that a try and see if you have any different results. 

Be determined but loosen up. 

Xanth

That's great advice, definitely.

But more to the point, if you can figure out the WHY a technique (or even ALL techniques) work, then you're in a position to be able to use any and all techniques.

*EVERY SINGLE TECHNIQUE* boils down to the same thing:  You somehow decrease your physical sensory input and increase your non-physical sensory input. 

That's it.  That's the secret to every single technique you know or will ever know and how they work.

Frozen Spirit

My friend who also projects said sensory deprivation went a long way for her in the beginning.  She was using a sleep mask and ear blocks I believe.  Never used them myself, but still, food for thought.

Lionheart

Quote from: Frozen Spirit on October 13, 2013, 00:20:34
My friend who also projects said sensory deprivation went a long way for her in the beginning.  She was using a sleep mask and ear blocks I believe.  Never used them myself, but still, food for thought.
I sleep with ear plugs in, my partner is a loud sleeper. I also use a mask/blindfold named the "Mindfold", which is a fantastic mask for closing out all light. I use that when I attempt to AP in the daytime, since I don't have a curtain on any window in the house at all. But, I haven't used it during sleeping.

Many times during my daytime AP sessions, I use my Mindfold and listen to either Binaural Beats/Isochronic Tones or some kind of relaxing music or I just use my Light/Sound Machine. But once in awhile I just go for total Sensory Deprivation with the earplugs and the Mindfold.

It's good to become efficient with all different techniques when learning to AP. It always keeps it "new"!  :wink:

Xanth

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The nice thing about the mindfold, too, is that you don't have to worry about your eyes as much.
A lot of people, including myself, have had issues where you have your eyes closed... you get really deep, then your eyes begin to flutter. 
In the day light this can really ruin things... but with a mindfold on, you don't have to worry about that light troubling you. 

You can actually practice without having to close your eyes at all!
I've tested this once... and it really works.  Find a room in your house which you can remove all light from... for me, it's a bathroom on our main floor.  If I close the door, put a towel under the crack in the door and turn the lights off, it's 100% dark.  Not an ounce of light anywhere.  Now just sit there in the dark with your eyes open... if they begin to close, let them.  This isn't an exercise in keeping your eyes open.

Eventually, as you sit there... for the most part, meditating with your eyes open... is that you'll start to "see" things.  The exact same things you would see if you had your eyes closed in an otherwise well-lit room.  You can project from this state just fine too.  PROJECTION WITH YOUR EYES OPEN.  Why does this work?  Because with the room dark, you've done the same thing as if you had your eyes closed... you've shut off the visual sensory input, and this is the cause for triggering of the 3D Blackness/Void state.  :)