Angels, those cheeky bastards, with wings

[Nerezza]

Read this:

http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_41.htm#4

Im curious. Why do you expect angels to show up when you're also asking for evil entities to show up?

[Tyler]

I'm trying to be unbiased here.

I am not evil and rather to be on the positive side, but with such lack of co operation, it makes me think...

[Tyler]

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[Tyler]

Alright i, i haven't actually read that text before, i read another one about entities and wild life.

Well, i understand half of my question but why advanced neg visit me and other don't is beyond my comprehension .

[Grainless]

maybe the 'evil' ones like to interfere with your life and the 'good' ones just come when they are needed not when you ask

[Nerezza]

Well, i understand half of my question but why advanced neg visit me and other don't is beyond my comprehension .

If you haven't read Practical Psychic Self Defence yet, I urge you to do so.

Evil will come to you if you ask it too, simply because it is taking advantage of you. A lion will come more readily to you than a lamb, but which one is more likely to eat you.

Ahhhh so it's a personal issue, they think thy're too good for me, or i'm not worth their vaulable time or something?


They are messengers of God, not a toy. They have a purpose separate from our affairs. If it is their cause to help or present themselves to you, it is because they decided it. This is not touched by an angel.

yeah well i wonder if "occasionally" stands next to never in their dictionary.

See above. If you have seen an Angel once, you are very lucky.

Ahhh so evil entities coming up to me do not interfere with karma and universal law and freedom of choice, why, of course...

Evil entities do interfere with your choices. That's how they thrive. That's why they show up when asked.

However that make more sense, still, i'm not happy to be visited by dark side only.

It's tough but fair. Evil is more than happy to come to you if you ask it. Think of it as Star Wars, where the light side is extremely hard to follow, but in the end worth it. While the dark side is extremely powerful, but in the end you will be consumed by it and destroyed.

Good luck in your thoughts.

[Greytraveller]

Tyler, just remember that when dealing with angelic and evil entities there are NO unbiased views about this subject. Everything that is written or said about the angelic or demonic is done with an interior motive to sway people one way or the other. Ultimately there are No neutral people in this regard. (Eventually everyone has to make a choice.) [8D]

[kakkarot]

well, i don't think that's neccessarily true greytraveller, but that's my opinion (bias? []).

thanks nerezza. i'd never known that article was there. i'm gonna go looking for more of robert's articles.

and tyler: what does the third eye have to do with anything? God knows your thoughts whether you're "trying" to tell them to Him or even if you're trying to "hide" them from Him. and lastly, don't expect God to come to your beck and call just because you want something - remember that it is WE that need to have faith because He already knows what's going on.

~kakkarot

[Tyler]

Whatever happened to that "Ask and ye shall recieve" saying? [V]

[kakkarot]

yeah, well, there's that little widely-overlooked clause about asking in accordance with God's will. [|)]

~kakkarot

[Tyler]

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[kakkarot]

ok, a few points:

"What i'm asking for is a handfull of LSD cristals. I'm not asking for money power or anything like that, i'm asking for a simple chemical powder.

I don't see why Angels, or whoever it might be on the higher end can not satisfy my wish."

1) why should they?

"mind developing substances".

2) lsd does not "develop" your mind, it destroys it.

"I tried growing weed but after more than 2 months of mind blowing hard work i lost it in a tragic and unfortunate accident. i tried growing mushrooms but failed."

3) maybe God IS trying to talk to you in that: maybe He's saying DON'T DO IT!

"I don't see any reason why i'm not aloud to have LSD"

4) and i don't see any reason why i can't have sex. life sucks, live with it. God has His reasons, this is one of the longest and hardest lessons He's taught me. We may not know what they are, but we should trust (FAITH!) Him enough to believe that He does have good reasons.

"After all i might try to develop it myself and waste time on it that can be spend in a better way. Then i will be in danger of injecting poor quality chemicals as i lack mutli million dollar laboratory needed to syntesise clean LSD."

5) you know what a much better use for that time and money might be: helping those who need money in order to just live. the poor, the homeless, the needy: there is no short supply of those and like Jesus said:

quote:34 Then the King will say to those at his right hand, 'Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.' 37 Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? 39 And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?' 40 And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.'

Matthew 25: 34-40

"All my phsychedeic miseries tought me nothing."

6) turn to God then. And by this, i don't mean "tell God to help you", but i mean "give up your own life and live for the Lord".

"God or whoever it might be would rather see me damage my body than get quality ingredient."

7) i'm sure God would rather you relied upon the gifts that He has already given you (ie, your mind) than turn to things that damage those gifts.

"From that i conclude, that the only logical explanation is no good, spiritualy of physicaly was ment to happen to me."

but you have learned something: drugs aren't the way to go. they may be an easy way out, but as Murphy's Laws of Combat say, "the easy way is always mined".

following the christ isn't about having God do things for you, it's about giving up your own life to live for Him. if you don't want to do this, that is your choice, but don't expect God to give you stuff just because you want it.

~kakkarot [|)]

[Nerezza]

24 "No one can serve two masters; for a slave will either hate the one and love the other, or be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
Matthew 6:24

You must chose between good and evil. Despite what some believe, evil does exist and it has a hold on you. It was a blessing that your drugs were destroyed and it is a blessing that you are here now.

You want spiritual enlightenment? Give up drugs. Take up meditation and start praying. Or continue taking drugs and summoning evil entities to you. You cannot have it both ways.

As Kakkarot said, turn to God. Life is far to short and beautiful to be spent under the influence of drugs. The angels will smile and God will be pleased. In the end you will be happier, even if you havn't seen your angel.

All my phsychedeic miseries tought me nothing

Think about it. That's right, it's because drugs are for the weak and anything gained from them will fade away, leaving you worse off than before.

Please reconsider your methods.

[Tyler]

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[Tyler]

But now more on the subject.

After i posted this last night i spent a great ammount of time medtiating on this and did come up with a logical answer []

The only differnce between god and devil is that one is charged positevly, and the other one negativly. All emotional energy can be separated into good or evil, pleasent or unpleasant sort of way.

Satan and all the other negs or "wild life" feeds on negative energy and god FEEDS on positive. SHe FEEDS, do you understand the word FEED? Polarity means nothing, the only need for you is to feed on your positive vibes. SHe doesn't give a toss whether you suffer or live happy as long as yin yang equation are ballanced and god gets its share.

However crazy that sounds i don't care. I don't care what mathew quotes you going to bring in to prove me wrong, i dont care how many times you say the evil has got a hold of me, i don't care.

I even know why those so called angels wont help me with my LSD probelm. []
Yes i know. I know that EVERY SINGLE SPIRITUAL ENTITY has a hardwired set of behavior in them. That set makes sure that one does never help another UNCONDITIONALLY. The reason i didn't get a pile of LSD on my table is not because it would affect the universal laws and karma, and not because i would not learn something elsewise, nooo! []

If i ever DID get that pile, it would be because angels or whoever the bonk it might be get something from it, they would never appear and say here's some LSD, good luck. They would only do that if the outcome of this deed would meet their desired expectation. It would be because LSD resulted in a chain action which would benefit them in one way or another. The very same mothertrucking karmic universal law they all love to follow.

Nooo, this entities have no unconditional love, no, no matter how much you don't like what i say, this is true. They don't do unconditional gifts. God and evil are just 2 different sides ... of the same coin.

[goingslow]

Okay Im trying to be less insulting etc so let me just narrow it down to one thing.  

If you're so against Dogma why are you so dogmatic and insistent you know what angels and negative entities are.  If you're truly figuring everything out for yourself why are you going into it all with things youve read about an Angel's nature?  That this is what they should do this is hard wired.

There's no way you know that stuff from experience.

You're very dogmatic.  People who insist they know the nature of things they can't possibly understand are doing it on faith.  I dont really care about the rest.. get a Ouiji board to summon up more negs if it helps.  Its probably more effective.

[Terry B]

If I may ask you're biological scientist and not by any chance a physicist, do you?

Btw, a closed mouth gathers no feet. (note to self) [B)]

[Tyler]

quote:Originally posted by goingslow

There's no way you know that stuff from experience.

You're very dogmatic.

I don't need expirience of thousand wake induced OBEs to know this.

Unlike you i have ability in my mind to correlate all its contents. Unlike you i don't live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity.



Terry B. I said specialisation is for insects, i try to master as many science fields as i can.

[goingslow]

*L* so much for trying to be nice.

In all honesty you're amazing Tyler.  The gears within the gears and especially how much you KNOW you know.  If you're ever in my city some day can I touch you?

Please?

[Nerezza]

hh but wait, science is the work of evil isn't it, of course it is, dogmatic christian fundamentalist always say that it's the devil trys to corrupt people via science of course.


My major is computer science with a minor(maybe major) geology. It's people like you who keep science and religion apart.

[kakkarot]

as for dogma: you are the one asking about angels. i'm telling you something about them.

and as for the rest: I think you misread what i'm trying to tell you.

"It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools." Ecclesiastes 7:5 [|)]

~kakkarot

[Nerezza]

Careful Kakkarot, that bible quote could be considered dogma.[]

All this talk about dogma reminded me Kakkarot, remember when I called you a heretic(inadvertantly of course) for not following dogma concerning free will?

[kakkarot]

yes i remember. i laughed at it cause i knew how it wasn't true [].

and tyler: the great thing about beliefs, is that there are so many to choose from. unfortunately, belief is no substitute for truth. i spend my life searching for a truth, not making up beliefs in my mind. i'm sorry if you don't agree with what i say, but you have the free will to do so.

that is the great thing about free will, isn't it? a person can choose to disregard truth and instead believe that what they want to be truth is truth.

as for the lsd: why not ask the evil entities to bring it to you?

and as for God "feeding": i guess you've yet to know God then [|)].

be well in your life.

~kakkarot

[Tyler]

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[Tyler]

By the way i've met god, or should i say i felt god.

I liked what i felt, god is the gathering, the vortex of all the positive energies in the universe, exact opposite of satan.

One is negative other one is positive, one negative other one positive, get me? They both feed on you.

I get a feeling they are long time, or should i say big time business partners.