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Lysear

as far as i'm copncerned the dividing line between the obe and lucid dream is very thin. If you are out of coincidence when dreaming and also lucid surely your out of your body while concious?

                    Lysear


Jeff_Mash

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Originally posted by dani:
How can i know if its a lucid dream or a OBE?
i had a lucid dream that im in my room sitting near the computer
isnt it the same like in OBE ?
How can i tell the diferrent between The two ?



To put it bluntly, when you're lucid dreaming you're aware that you're dreaming.  When you're OOBEing, you're aware that you're not dreaming.

It all boils down to how much conscious awareness you have at the time of the experience.  If you have awareness but you don't have good control over your mind/imagination, you will be in a lucid dreamlike environment.  Otherwise, if you can control your mind and keep it at bay (without having it run all over the place as it normally likes to do), then you can have a controlled OBE.



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dani

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff_Mash:
quote:
Originally posted by dani:
How can i know if its a lucid dream or a OBE?
i had a lucid dream that im in my room sitting near the computer
isnt it the same like in OBE ?
How can i tell the diferrent between The two ?



To put it bluntly, when you're lucid dreaming you're aware that you're dreaming.  When you're OOBEing, you're aware that you're not dreaming.

It all boils down to how much conscious awareness you have at the time of the experience.  If you have awareness but you don't have good control over your mind/imagination, you will be in a lucid dreamlike environment.  Otherwise, if you can control your mind and keep it at bay (without having it run all over the place as it normally likes to do), then you can have a controlled OBE.



Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
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What do you mean "When you're OOBEing, you're aware that you're not dreaming."  isnt OOBE is kind of a dreaem too ? your body is still in bed

and i got another question  can you Become OBE From Lucid dream ?





coral1

Hi Dani
    I `ve had some success projecting to the Astral from the lucid dream state. I agree with Lysear that the dividing line between these various states of conciousness is pretty thin and I try not to worry too much about how to classify them. Eveyone`s perception is going to be different according to their belief systems. That said, there are threads of common experience that are helpful to all of us. Thats whats good about this site:you get alot of different ideas and techniques. Find out what works for you. Relax and go to whatever place your soul takes you.
    Happy Trails

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Jeff_Mash

quote:
Originally posted by dani:
What do you mean "When you're OOBEing, you're aware that you're not dreaming."  isnt OOBE is kind of a dreaem too ? your body is still in bed



OBE is completely different than a dream.  In a dream, you don't remember it until you wake up.  Your full waking consciousness is not aware of the experience when you're normally dreaming.

When you OBE, your full waking consciousness IS present.  You can think, react, make logical decisions, and do anything else you would normally do in 'real life.'  You can remember every little detail AS ITS HAPPENING as opposed to dreams, where you only remember when you wake up.

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and i got another question  can you Become OBE From Lucid dream ?



Yes.


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Lysear

i personally had my only few projections via lucid dreaming. I became concious in my dreams and shouted "i want to have an astral projection" or another method is to start flying upward and this simulates moving out of body and your astral body should hopefully do the same.

                           lysear


dani

How can i know if its a lucid dream or a OBE?
i had a lucid dream that im in my room sitting near the computer
isnt it the same like in OBE ?
How can i tell the diferrent between The two ?