Any Good Movies About OBE's?

yeehaanow · November 12, 2004, 22:01:45

Just wondering if anyone has ever seen a movie, either bad or good, about astral projection?

Leo Volont · November 12, 2004, 23:25:05

Quote from: yeehaanowJust wondering if anyone has ever seen a movie, either bad or good, about astral projection?

Way back in the late Thirties or Forties there was a Gary Cooper movie which advanced the idea that he was able to Astrally visit the woman he loved from his jail cells.

But now that you mention it, it does seem wide open for a screen play.

Maybe Bruce should get to work on it.

Years ago another Astral Projection Guru, Robert Monroe, wrote a Novel that might have been adapted into a Screen Play -- its surprise twist was that the Master who had helped him out from life time through life time was in fact Himself coming back from the Future. There was one really cute passage in the book -- it described a line of Souls waiting to be reborn, and in the line was this one small but brite soul that must have been a Pet Cat. Monroe asked it its name, and it replied that it had always been called "I Love You"... I thought that was so sweet, no?

But how many people would ever mistake "I Love You" for their name? Sad thought...

Logic · November 13, 2004, 01:52:22

Flatliners, but it wasn't good.. its the only one I can recall.

Leo Volont · November 13, 2004, 02:05:24

Quote from: LogicFlatliners, but it wasn't good.. its the only one I can recall.

"Flatliners" was more about NDE's (Near Death Experiences ). But Julia Roberts was in it, so how bad could it have been?

clandestino · November 13, 2004, 03:46:51

These films aren't specifically about OBE's, but the subject nature is definitely related.....

the 13th Floor
Vanilla sky
The Cell
The Matrix
Final Fantasy : Spirits within
Jacob's ladder
The sixth Sense

Sampson · November 13, 2004, 04:31:55

QuoteWay back in the late Thirties or Forties there was a Gary Cooper movie which advanced the idea that he was able to Astrally visit the woman he loved from his jail cells.

The film that you speak about above is called 'Peter Ibbetson' and was made in 1935, the film was very popular with the Surrealist movement of the same period.

This film in my opinion, although quite sentimental, is one of the greatest movie love stories I've ever seen, I would recomend anybody to try and watch this film if they ever get the opportunity.

S

Leo Volont · November 13, 2004, 08:02:38

Quote from: Leo Volont

Years ago another Astral Projection Guru, Robert Monroe, wrote a Novel that might have been adapted into a Screen Play -- its surprise twist was that the Master who had helped him out from life time through life time was in fact Himself coming back from the Future. There was one really cute passage in the book -- it described a line of Souls waiting to be reborn, and in the line was this one small but brite soul that must have been a Pet Cat. Monroe asked it its name, and it replied that it had always been called "I Love You"... I thought that was so sweet, no?

I went to www.bn.com and searched Robert Monroe's books... the book I was referring to is probably "Far Journey's" which is advanced as a true book about his life -- Non-fiction. But nothing had ever read more like a fictional novel in the history of the World... but it is a good novel!

Robert Monroe has ever been encompassed by controversy. His first book on Astral Projection raised up a storm because the techniques he advanced seemed contrived, especially after somebody produced a Paper which they said was written some years earlier, word for word identical to Monroe's account except for the detail that the Astral Projections were induced by snorting glue or some other reprehensibly non-recommmendable method. It was thought that Monroe could only induce his Astral Projections by some low-life druggy way, but simply contrived drugfree techniques, which he never actually used, so that he could sell his books to the mainstream Publishing Houses. Ofcourse, everybody on the sidelines of all this -- assertions on one side and accusations on the other -- could hardly be expected to sort out any absolute truths. But to be fair to Monroe, his techniques DID work for a lot of people. And the accusations against him may be been a campaign to ruin him foisted upon him by the Religious Right out to destroy the Astral Projection Movement as being 'Occult' or whatever.

But certainly, if one is to study the great and influential books on Astral Projection, Monroe is a must... and the books are still in print and available. The other great authors, if the books can be found, are Sylvan Muldoon and Oliver Fox. But certainly, Monroe is the more literary, and and so I believe may be the least trustworthy, of the big three. But his books may be the more interesting for their 'creativity'.

Selski · November 13, 2004, 14:27:47

Three I've thought of so far:

Ghost (although he's dead when he projects!)
Altered States

I have a sneak that The Wizard of Oz is an astral projection by Dorothy to one of the classrooms that Monroe talks of!!

Great thread.

Sarah

Nagual · November 13, 2004, 14:28:14

You also have one about lucid dreaming and dream sharing: Dreamscape (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087175/).

catmeow · November 13, 2004, 15:00:09

Leo

It's good to hear from someone who remembers author's like Sylvan Muldoon and Oliver Fox. Years ago this was my staple reading diet. Muldoon went into terrific detail about what he called the "exteriorisation of the double" and described the whole process in minute detail.

A bit later Monroe appeared and popularised the subject with an excellent first book (Journeys Out Of The Body). He created the Monroe Institute, patented "hemi-sync" and wrote a couple more books. A few spin off authors later appeared (eg Bruce Moen). I thought Monroe's first book was interesting and honest (silly me). He posed questions rather than making outrageous claims. He didn't claim his experiences were real and he was unable to say for sure whether they weren't just dreams. I think by and large his first book does describe set of genuine experiences.

Going back to theme of movies, one of my favorite all time greats is AMERICAN BEAUTY. The very final scene shows the main character "Lester" (played by Kevin Spacey), dead, leaving his body and floating up into the sky, looking down at the panorama beneath him..... this is what he says whilst this is going on....

"I'd always heard your entire life flashes in front of your eyes the second before you die. First of all, that one second isn't a second at all. It stretches on forever, like an ocean of time. For me it was lying on my back at boy scout camp, watching falling stars. And yellow leaves from the maple trees that lined our street. Or my grandmother's hands, and the way her skin seemed like paper. And the first time I saw my cousin Tony's brand new firebird. And Jayney. And Caroline. I guess I could be pretty pi**ed off about what happened to me, but it's hard to stay mad when there's so much beauty in the world. Sometimes I feel like I'm seeing it all at once and it's too much, my heart fills up like a balloon that's about to burst. And then I remember to relax and stop trying to hold onto it. And then it flows through me like rain, and I can't feel anything but gratitude, for every single moment of my stupid little life. You have no idea what I'm talking about I'm sure. But don't worry. You will someday"

It's a stunning, haunting scene, and well worth watching. You'll never forget it if you see it. If ever you have any doubts about AP or OOB's this is a good scene to watch!

catmeow

Sampson · November 13, 2004, 15:05:40

One film that I have seen just recently concerning the astral planes was a mystical western named 'Blueberry: The Secret Experience'.

The film contains references to Shamanism, The Astral planes, Kundali, Chakras, Spirits and healing trauma through out of body experiences on the Astral plane.

I thought that some of the characters lacked a little depth and some parts of the film I found a little two-dimensional and clichéd, but below the surface is a very interesting look at confronting personal demons and trauma through mystical experiences.

There are some beautiful landscapes captured on film and the ending is very spectacular, a little similar to the ending of '2001 a space odyssey'.

Cheers

S

yeehaanow · November 13, 2004, 15:21:15

Great replies! Thank you.

It seem that there is a void in the non-horror AP movies. I am currently working on one that will shoot in about two years. Just getting the story together now, and if anyone has any ideas for the story, I am open. It should be something uplifting and "pro"-projection. I would like to expose more people to the unlimited possibilities. Perhaps Robert would be interested in some kind of colaberation? I am open to anything, as long as it is constructive, and not just after money.

Tim

yeehaanow · November 13, 2004, 15:25:28

I just remembered, there is a movie coming out called, "The Sea Within" that is about a paraplegic man, who in the trailers, seems to fly out the window. Has anyone seen this? It is not released in the US yet.

yeehaanow · November 13, 2004, 15:30:11

Quote from: SampsonOne film that I have seen just recently concerning the astral planes was a mystical western named 'Blueberry: The Secret Experience'.
S

I can't find that one. Any info you have about it would be greatly appreciated

Cayla · November 13, 2004, 18:21:09

A Nightmare on Elm Street (all of them).

Leo Volont · November 13, 2004, 19:32:19

Quote from: catmeowLeo

It's good to hear from someone who remembers author's like Sylvan Muldoon and Oliver Fox. Years ago this was my staple reading diet. Muldoon went into terrific detail about what he called the "exteriorisation of the double" and described the whole process in minute detail.

A bit later Monroe appeared and popularised the subject with an excellent first book (Journeys Out Of The Body). He created the Monroe Institute, patented "hemi-sync" and wrote a couple more books. A few spin off authors later appeared (eg Bruce Moen). I thought Monroe's first book was interesting and honest (silly me). He posed questions rather than making outrageous claims. He didn't claim his experiences were real and he was unable to say for sure whether they weren't just dreams. I think by and large his first book does describe set of genuine experiences.

Going back to theme of movies, one of my favorite all time greats is AMERICAN BEAUTY. The very final scene shows the main character "Lester" (played by Kevin Spacey), dead, leaving his body and floating up into the sky, looking down at the panorama beneath him..... this is what he says whilst this is going on....

"I'd always heard your entire life flashes in front of your eyes the second before you die. First of all, that one second isn't a second at all. It stretches on forever, like an ocean of time. For me it was lying on my back at boy scout camp, watching falling stars. And yellow leaves from the maple trees that lined our street. Or my grandmother's hands, and the way her skin seemed like paper. And the first time I saw my cousin Tony's brand new firebird. And Jayney. And Caroline. I guess I could be pretty pi**ed off about what happened to me, but it's hard to stay mad when there's so much beauty in the world. Sometimes I feel like I'm seeing it all at once and it's too much, my heart fills up like a balloon that's about to burst. And then I remember to relax and stop trying to hold onto it. And then it flows through me like rain, and I can't feel anything but gratitude, for every single moment of my stupid little life. You have no idea what I'm talking about I'm sure. But don't worry. You will someday"

It's a stunning, haunting scene, and well worth watching. You'll never forget it if you see it. If ever you have any doubts about AP or OOB's this is a good scene to watch!

catmeow

Yeah, I loved Monroe's books... even if they were haunted a bit by allegations... and who is to know the truth about allegations coming out of the blue. It would be a bit embarrassing if your first Out of Body Experiences came from sniffing glue, afterall, ... it is not something you would wish to publish widely. But perhaps he did publish an early paper. But then, afterwards, found a non-Glue means of inducing Projections and superimposed that method upon his earliest experiences for the popular book he wished to publish. No harm, no foul... as long as the subsequent methods worked, and there must be hundreds of people who can vouch for Monroe's techniques.

Yes, "American Beauty" was a superb movie! The quintessential mid-life crisis movie. It also turned me on to what became one of my favorite CD's. Do you know how on the soundtrack Anne Lennex covered Neil Young's "Don't Let it Bring You Down"... well that was off Annie Lennex's "Medusa" CD which is really amazing. "No More I Love Yous" is a wonderfully beautiful, emotional, intricate song.... I can't resist plugging in my keyboard and play along everytime I hear it.. and I never play it the same way twice.. there is so much going on.

But about the 'life flashing before your eyes' moment... it is indeed a common feature of Near Death Experiences. Catholic Prophecy says that at sometime during the End Times, a day will come in which everyone will be given that moment. It will be called "The Warning". People will see their entire lives and will be able to judge themselves. It would be a good thing if it were really to happen. It is typical for people who have had Near Death Experiences to morally transform their lives... to set straight their priorities. Right now it seems that the many people in the world are turning conservative -- circling the wagons to institutionalize private privileges for the well-to-do, declaring Greed the New Virtue, and justifying genocide for the sake of augmenting security. I can't imagine that such moral pathologies could not be somewhat redeemed by looking down upon them from above with the impartial eye of immanent Death.

Jeff_Mash · November 13, 2004, 19:49:03

I can't beleive no one has mentioned the following two movies:

What Dreams May Come
Waking Life

Both of them are great and will mean more to people who are into OBE's and LD's than the average Joe.

catmeow · November 13, 2004, 20:33:42

I love this thread!

It's hard keeping up but this is the list so far....

Waking Life (2001) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243017/
What Dreams May Come (1998) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/
Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087800/
The Sea Within ()

QuoteYes, "American Beauty" was a superb movie! The quintessential mid-life crisis movie. It also turned me on to what became one of my favorite CD's. Do you know how on the soundtrack Anne Lennex covered Neil Young's "Don't Let it Bring You Down"... well that was off Annie Lennex's "Medusa" CD which is really amazing. "No More I Love Yous" is a wonderfully beautiful, emotional, intricate song.... I can't resist plugging in my keyboard and play along everytime I hear it.. and I never play it the same way twice.. there is so much going on.

I'll check out the track. The soundtrack did of course did win an oscar. Notable of course was Thomas Newman's original score, very haunting:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00003XACV/102-1625457-0461702

QuoteBut about the 'life flashing before your eyes' moment... it is indeed a common feature of Near Death Experiences.

Another of the OOB masters, Robert Crookall, dealt with the life review in detail in his many books. Basically, the idea is that when we die we go through a life review, but with a difference: Every action and evey emotion, injury, pain, pleasure and joy we cause in others... we get to experience in that "second before we die". So if we caused massive grief, we feel the grief, and if we caused great joy we get to feel the joy. This is judgement day, and we get to judge ourselves. It's a great idea, and Robert Crookall was the only person I know of who introduced this concept. He didn't make it up, it was based on a lot of research....

catmeow

BOATS · November 13, 2004, 21:03:42

I would recommend the animated movie "Waking Life" also the movie Solaris has some very good scenes in it where George clooney appears to be astral projecting.

coral1 · November 13, 2004, 21:43:41

Hi there

I think "Waking Life" is by far the best representation of dreaming-OBE that I have seen. The movie really captures the whole feel of non-physical reality. If someone wants to know what an OBE is like check out this film.

Happy Trails

paker7 · November 13, 2004, 23:09:47

Quote from: CaylaA Nightmare on Elm Street (all of them).

Drat and double drat ! You Beat me to it Cayla

Freddy Kruger - the ultimate master of lucid (lucid only for him) dreams !

yeehaanow · November 14, 2004, 03:48:55

I found that "The Sea Within" is actually called "Mar Adentro".

Here is the link, http://imdb.com/title/tt0369702/

AndrewTheSinger · November 14, 2004, 06:14:08

There's one called 'Dreams', by Akira Kurosawa. I specially liked the experience he had when we crossed the tunnel, and the one during the snowstorm.

http://www.heroic-cinema.com/films/akira_kurosawas_dreams.htm

http://www.aisb.org/~ddj/dreams/

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0100998/

wisp · November 15, 2004, 17:37:02

Good thread.

How about....
Donnie Darko

Butterfly Effects

An old movie "The Incredible Shrinking Man"

Nagual · November 16, 2004, 10:22:28

A TV series : "Beyond Reality" (1991-1993) : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101046/
Another two, but a lil bit out of topic:
The Cell : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209958/
Solaris (Solyaris): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069293/ , http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307479/

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