Anyone ever tried to use Astral travel to perhaps view or see events that have happened or maybe to find out about known world mysteries which have had you intriuged? for example: has anyone ever tried to gain information in the astral world about what really happened to Lord Lucan? or has anyone ever gone back and been an astral spectator when the Hindenberg disaster occured?
i wouldn't mind going back to Normandy on June 6th, 1944. that'd be a humbling experience....
but then again, im weird like that.
or back to the time of Plato, when he wrote about Atlantis, then question him on where its at and go there.
thats just a couple.
or if you watch "Robot Chicken" do an "Aholes in Time!" and when i get back and notice somethign is changed blame it on society :D...but don't think thats possible.
I once read an AP book where the author said he went back and saw how the pyramids were built. He said they knew of a way to create forms the shape of the blocks, fill the forms with a special mixture of sand, add water, and presto - the great pyramid.
In other words, I no longer believe what astral projectors claim as historical fact.
Quote from: Stookie on September 12, 2007, 12:14:31
I once read an AP book where the author said he went back and saw how the pyramids were built. He said they knew of a way to create forms the shape of the blocks, fill the forms with a special mixture of sand, add water, and presto - the great pyramid.
In other words, I no longer believe what astral projectors claim as historical fact.
This is not so farfetched at all. French scientists were able to make a liquid stone few years ago and i think the ancients possessed this technology. This is the simplest explanation on how the stone walls can fit so tightly together that even a needle cannot go through. They do compress a little but there would still be some small holes.
Quote from: Milkdrops on September 09, 2007, 15:23:37
Anyone ever tried to use Astral travel to perhaps view or see events that have happened or maybe to find out about known world mysteries which have had you intriuged? for example: has anyone ever tried to gain information in the astral world about what really happened to Lord Lucan? or has anyone ever gone back and been an astral spectator when the Hindenberg disaster occured?
I don't think you can astral project into a time that your astral body did not exist. You can only project into real-time.
What if you project to a part of the astral that exists outside of space and time, and then observe events that take place in time from there? Then you could view any place in any time. I don't see why our astral bodies would be confined to time and space - only our physical bodies.
Well I would think any realm in the astral world operates outside of time and space. I dont think theres any dimension/plane that operates within the boundaries of time and space at least not that I have heard of.
Funny enough i watched a TV show in UK other day with that psychic (claims to be psychic) from MOST HAUNTED. He went to the great pyramid, even inside the great big tombs the queens and pharohs tombs.
He said he was possed by the spirit of one of the people in charge of the workers who built the great pyramid.
And he said just about the exact same method was used to build them, as the post on here said. He also said workers was working day and night like shifts, so work on the pyramid never stopped until the minute it was complete.
YouTube Derek Great Pyramid you will probly see some clips, the guy is abit of a psycho and probly a fake but it was interesting.
Well I liked the alien theory 8-)
-AM
If the Akashic Records exist, you could view anything at anytime, past or future. Right?
Quote from: Stookie on September 14, 2007, 11:18:17
What if you project to a part of the astral that exists outside of space and time, and then observe events that take place in time from there? Then you could view any place in any time. I don't see why our astral bodies would be confined to time and space - only our physical bodies.
Fair enough. When you project into those times and places tell me what you see.
I thought the astral was out of space and time in the first place.
-AM
the future isnt set in stone, life would be so pointless if it was
In the astral world isnt it not based on time?
Given that in the astral anything is possible.
We set up our own limitations. Not the astral.
Time is a physical thing. Gravity affects time, and if gravity doesn't work in the astral, time doesn't work in the astral. You could totally travel in time if you wanted to. That is, of course, if APing is real. And I really hope it is.
Quote from: greggkroodsma on September 14, 2007, 11:06:06
I don't think you can astral project into a time that your astral body did not exist. You can only project into real-time.
I disagree. From what I have read, I have come to the understanding that the Astral/Spirit realm is timeless therefore, you could see into another time. A real-time projection is what we know as your standard out-of-body experience.
I haven't experienced a conscious Astral projection (that I'm aware of) and have seldom succeeded at a OOBE (thus far) but these statements are based off of what I have read.
Quote from: greggkroodsma on September 15, 2007, 19:40:47
Fair enough. When you project into those times and places tell me what you see.
We're ruled by DAMED DIRTY APES!!!!!
Quote from: bjb1234 on September 16, 2007, 20:22:02
the future isnt set in stone, life would be so pointless if it was
I think its 99% set in stone but not totally.
Well usually clairvoyants don't see the future the same as we see the past except it hasn't yet happened. Usually, they see a storm of sybolism. A physicist would see this as infinite possible vectors that haven't yet collapsed into the formality of actually ocurring. Why out of everything that can happen, certain things do, is still a mystery.
-AM
the future is a probability tree... an ever changing one.
Derek Acorah has now more or less been outed as a fake. Cieren fed the researches some info on a character called "Kreed Kafer" (anagram of "faker derek") and lo and behold Derek went into lots of detail about this "Kreed kafer" character!
http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=32 (http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=32)
Yvette calls him a "fake b....". That's why he was dropped from Most Haunted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSiFlVp65NM&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSiFlVp65NM&mode=related&search=)
I've seen him live and he puts on a good show. Quite likeable, but fake I'm afraid. His theatrics on Most Haunted became laughable with all the possessions, and peaked when he got possessed and blurted "Mary loves willy... Mary loves willy"!!! Was he taking the p... or what? !!! :-)
I quite like him, he livened up MH but is a fake i'm afraid....
Ummmm whats Derek got to do with the original Question?!???!?
Hmmm... good question Tongo!
I was replying to this post by bjb1234:
Quote from: bjb1234
Funny enough i watched a TV show in UK other day with that psychic (claims to be psychic) from MOST HAUNTED. He went to the great pyramid, even inside the great big tombs the queens and pharohs tombs.
He said he was possed by the spirit of one of the people in charge of the workers who built the great pyramid.
And he said just about the exact same method was used to build them, as the post on here said. He also said workers was working day and night like shifts, so work on the pyramid never stopped until the minute it was complete.
YouTube Derek Great Pyramid you will probly see some clips, the guy is abit of a psycho and probly a fake but it was interesting.
Quote from: catmeow on September 20, 2007, 07:40:27
Derek Acorah has now more or less been outed as a fake. Cieren fed the researches some info on a character called "Kreed Kafer" (anagram of "faker derek") and lo and behold Derek went into lots of detail about this "Kreed kafer" character!
http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=32 (http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=32)
Yvette calls him a "fake b....". That's why he was dropped from Most Haunted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSiFlVp65NM&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSiFlVp65NM&mode=related&search=)
I've seen him live and he puts on a good show. Quite likeable, but fake I'm afraid. His theatrics on Most Haunted became laughable with all the possessions, and peaked when he got possessed and blurted "Mary loves willy... Mary loves willy"!!! Was he taking the p... or what? !!! :-)
I quite like him, he livened up MH but is a fake i'm afraid....
He's off? Oh man, he was the only one who appeared to have ANY knowledge of the occult. I finally gave in a watched a few shows, the rest of them are useless.
"Ooh, its a bit scary in here, I'll get my digital camera...."
You cant photograph astral phenomena with physical equipment. D'oh! And the average horror writer has a far more extensive knowledge of the occult than all of them put together. When talking about ghosts, none of them mention shades, shellls, vitalised shells, etheric doubles etc and I dont think the word astral has ever been used!
obe = fake
Hi Kaz
You've been part of these forums for years now, and it's such a shame that you've never managed to have an OBE.
I'm not too sure why you are still here if you believe what you wrote. You therefore must think that you are talking with a bunch of liars at worst, or delusional people at best? Are you hoping to "de-convert" us :-P because I reckon you're flogging a dead horse - you see those of us who have had OBEs know that they aren't fake. We don't necessarily know what they are exactly, but we sure as hell know they aren't fake.
There's obviously been a keen interest in OBEs for you, as you've been here so long. That's why it's a shame you have come to the conclusion that you have. I can understand it though - before I ever had an OBE, I would have held a lot of doubt in my mind as to their genuineness.
And you do realise that saying 'OBE = fake' is asking for trouble - you know what people are like (not just members of this forum, but people in general) - dangle a carrot in front of them and most will bite! :-D
Sarah
Thats not the problem...i obe when i can and thats rare. I do not achiece obes whenever i want, so i cant do experiments bymself. if i could i would prove that obes are just illusions. i am not saying that you people here lie. i just say that you believe in something unreal: there are not strong proofs even for yourself, that obes are real. I dont saw yet anyone here doing tests like the card test with a very high degree of sucess. in my opinion, obes are just a a kind of hallucination.
Quote from: Selski on September 22, 2007, 04:45:47
I'm not too sure why you are still here if you believe what you wrote.
Astral Pulse does seem to have an itinerant population of trolls.
Quoteobe = fake
Flamebait.
"Anyone ever tried to view major events or gain knowledge on famous mysteries? "
Does life after death count as "knowledge on famous mysteries"?
I believe that I've had the opportunity to visit a close relative's heaven (Astral?) world.
The experience occured during a meditaion session, was hyper vivid, and left me with very clear lasting memories.
So, I belive that I've ansered the question for myself that there is existance beyond this world.
I didn't realize this intellectually by reading books, I realize this because of personal experience.
btw, it's taken me over 40 years.
"Whatever the humblest men affirm from their own experience is always worth listening to, but what even the cleverest of men, in their ignorance, deny, is never worth a moment's attention" - Sir William Barrett
(just an interesting quote, not directed at anyone in particular on this thread)
Something I find myself studying when I have an OBE is death and reincarnation. Other mysteries in the world do not matter to me as much. In my mind the basis of life is death and reincarnation, nothing else is anywhere near as important.
I agree Astir, reincarnation/life/death seem to be what i end up thinking about whenever i try to OBE or anything. Also, I think you can go back and forth in time in the Astral and see events. AP is how Nostradamus came up with his predictions, although he didn't do it in a way that I've heard anyone else on this forum do it.
I don't think AP is how Nostradamus came up with his predictions. I'd say clairvoyance, that's if he did in fact predict anything at all. Simply because in the astral, while it may transcend time, it's not made up of symbolic imagery from the future. To do that you need to focus elsewhere.
-AM
I've seen things that will happen to my future incarnation. I'm very confident that's what I am seeing, because I feel so at home as this other person. So technically the future...and that's one reason why I know the world doesn't end in 2012. :-P