Being aware of your Astral Double?

[Lysear]

If You mean what I think you mean then maybe I can offer a bit of advice. Long before I read anything on the idea, I decided that, rather than picture a body outside of your own and then transfer your conciousness into that, you should imagine yourself in that body. Let me clarify, Walk around then room in your imagination, a room your familiar with, perhaps your bedroom. Do things you would usually do in your room, turn on your P.C or play your guitar or whatever, but do it in your mind. Use every sense! smell what you'd smell, feel the texture of your guitar, the taste of your dinner or whatever. Make it as real as possible. When I do this for about 20 mins I find that I begin to experience exit sensations.

Now as I mentioned, I decided that this was a good technique before I read anything on it, Through personal experience (which is a rarity on such forums as this as people tend to regurgitate what they've been told in an attempt to be helpful!) Then lo and behold I read something 3 days ago that backs up this idea on some hermetics website.

SO in answer to your question, in my experience, it is not as effective to be aware of your "astral double" as a seperate entity as this is incredibly difficult to hold for more than a few minutes, instead imagine yourself walking around.

Hope this is helpful.

[ICWiz]

hmm,

Thanks for the insight. I will try this tonight, and i'll let you know what happens


--ICWiz

[Adrian]

Greetings  Lysear!

quote:Originally posted by Lysear

If You mean what I think you mean then maybe I can offer a bit of advice. Long before I read anything on the idea, I decided that, rather than picture a body outside of your own and then transfer your conciousness into that, you should imagine yourself in that body. Let me clarify, Walk around then room in your imagination, a room your familiar with, perhaps your bedroom. Do things you would usually do in your room, turn on your P.C or play your guitar or whatever, but do it in your mind. Use every sense! smell what you'd smell, feel the texture of your guitar, the taste of your dinner or whatever. Make it as real as possible. When I do this for about 20 mins I find that I begin to experience exit sensations.

This is indeed a method which is taught in various circles.

This method also makes a huge amount of sense for the reasons you mention. I just wanted to ask you how successful you have been in achieving an Astral projection with this method, and how reliable you have found it to be?

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Lysear]

"This method also makes a huge amount of sense for the reasons you mention. I just wanted to ask you how successful you have been in achieving an Astral projection with this method, and how reliable you have found it to be?"

I have to say, I havent managed a full projection before by using this technique, however I did get strong exit sensations a couple of times. One time I immagined performing a ritual known as the lesser banishing of the pentagram, but I think the sensations were due to the fact that I was effectivly "confusing my mind"into wondering if I was stood up moving around or laying down, rather than the content of the ritual.

[ame]

Has anyone use the exteriorization technique? I only read about this technique in some book but so far I haven't come across anyone yet that said they use this technique.

http://astralvoyage.com/projection/Exteriorization.html

It was claimed to be better and less fail prone.
From what I see what Lysear use are different from this.  

[ICWiz]

Hmm,

So i read in one of the sucess stories to RB, that the trick is that you are supposed to be aware of your astral double when trying to project.
Anyone have any exersizes that will help you do this?

--ICWiz