'Drunk?' State of Mind

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kiauma

In my experience, you want the spins.  AP is a disassociation from the body and from the physical world.  The spins can be used to your advantage by helping you further disassociate from your body.  My techniques is to imagine myself spinning in constantly changing random directions while falling, though it can take some practice.

WHen you do AP, you will have an intense falling sensation.  Experts disagree on exactly that is, but I always attributed it to the loss of gravities effects as you projected into the new consciousness.  People who are in zero gravity feel like they are constantly falling.

Just give in to the disassociation.  At a certain point, all you will have to do is let it happen.

You are very close - good luck!  :)
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NEone

yeah, I can bring myself to that "drunken" state fairly easily as well, but from that point I really don't know what to do or where to go either

holy reality

sometimes I get kind of a "drunk" feeling but never while in a "trance" it's usually when I can fully feel and move my body, but I'm focusing on my head/third eye.

I don't know exactly what to make of it either.... I've never been drunk but what I'm talking about feels like if you stood up really really fast and almost passed out.. or if you spun around in circles then stopped, and the room feels like it's spinning.

But then I also get this state of mind right before I cross over into the hypnagogic state where I'm alert but I'm not capable of having any real legitimate thoughts, everything I think deteroriorates in mid sentence and I feel really chaotic and disconnected, in a good way, but I still have some bodily awareness.

I'd say my mind feels "drunk" at that point but not my body.
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Sophistik

I think you are there.  This is the point where I make a concious split from the physical to another vehicle.  

Usually the process for me goes something like this:

1. Deep relaxation.

2. Any number of different otherworldy senses kick in from slight to mild: clairaudience, clairvoyance, etc... in no real order sometimes not.

3. I feel as if I am a guitar string or a string on a bow being plucked, how it vibrates rapidly... You know how you can see two strings when you pluck it? I feel that if I could see myself I'd see the same thing.

4. I feel as if i'm spinning rapidly into a vortex above my head.  Like someone flushed a toilet and i'm being sucked into it, spinning wildly...

5. At this point I make the decision to split.  I just will myself to "upload" to my astral body.

6. More spinning and sucking then bam... I feel like i'm waking up from sleep.  Only in the astral.  I do what feels like opening my physical eyes, but they are my astral.  

After the vibrations start and the spinning... I'd say if you know where to make that split, it takes about 5 seconds.  At least for me.

sthul

Just a quick question for all you people out there...

I haven't gotten an OBE yet (that i can remember anyways), but have gotten to a point in my projection process where I feel 'drunk'.  My eyes are fully closed, paralysis has set in, and the vibrations are intense at this point...but I still feel like I have the 'spins' from drinking too much.  And not my whole body mind you, just my head.  I can will it away if I want to at anytime.  My question is basically, what is happening when I feel 'drunk' (brow chakra?), and how close am I from a conscious projection.