anyone with new AP tech.'s???

[Birm]

You can find the new AP techs in the Astral Conciousness forum...
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[clandestino]

Hi, I haven't had any astral experiences in a while, until yesterday morning. Once again, an interruption in my sleep pattern was the key (I think!)

Perhaps that wasn't the only factor. Before going to sleep on Sunday evening, I said to myself "i'm going to project".

I woke at 5am on Monday... (this is usual for me actually, as i normally start work early on mondays, but we had a bank holiday so I could sleep in) .......and I rolled over to go back to sleep. Problem was, no matter how I tried, I stayed wide awake. Physically though, I was feeling more & more tired. Then came a point that I recognised; a warmth all over my body, and a "numbing" of the wandering activity of my mind. I knew at that point that I was likely to have some sort of success.

I fell asleep and awoke to find myself in some kind of valley. To test whether or not i was not in my physical body, I tried to fly, and effortlessly I drifted into the air. Down below was a scene that looked something like arizona / nevada, some small canyons, and red dusty earth. I could see 2 light brown horses running a few hundred yards away, so I drifted down towards them. They stopped as I approached, so I thought I'd try to land on the back of one horse. I gripped its mane as it galloped away, and found it pretty tricky to control, (I've only been horseriding twice before) but i remembered where to push my feet, and which direction to tug the mane (I ended up pushing the horse's head left & right as tugging the mane didn't seem to be working too well.)

Well, it was a fantastic experience ! but the key to it ( I believe) was an interrupted sleep pattern.

Mark

[RJA]

I'm new to this site and new to AP.

About a year ago I read Buhlman's "Adventures Beyond the Body" and within a few weeks got to the vibrational state three nights in a row using this technique (which I found on the web somewhere): when near sleep imagine yourself sinking through your bed, a foot at a time until you are on the floor.  Then imagine floating back up and begin the sinking process again.  Despite never having reached the vibrational state before when I tried this technique I had a huge response within 10 seconds - it felt like a semi-truck was driving through my body.  The next two nights I got to the vibrational state but the vibrations weren't as strong.  On none of the occasions was I able to successfully get out of my body.  On the first night as the vibrations subsided I heard, in my head, this strange music (and very real) that can only be described as "mystical wind chimes" - hmmmm.

Then I stopped trying until recently.  Within the last month I've had 3 or 4 OBEs (one might have been a lucid dream - I "woke up" flying and thought I was having an OBE but I don't actually remember leaving my body).  Twice I just woke up at night and spontaneously left my body without trying (except that I had done some sort of OBE technique before going to sleep).  The first time it happened I was awakened by a spinning sensation as if my body were being flipped upside down on a spindle very quickly and then I (the astral me) was on all fours beside the bed.  The next time I woke and sat up and realized I was half-way out and then I got up the rest of the way.  A few days ago I woke up and felt vibrations in my neck area and I relaxed and encouraged them to spread throughout my body and after a minute or so was able to sort of sit-up and get out of my body. During this experience while I had the vibrations I also heard voices and felt hands on me.  I don't remember much about what the voices were saying except, strangely enough, I remember them talking about my twin brother! (I do have a twin, but why would they be talking about him?)

On all three of these occasions I wasn't very organized in "using an OBE technique", but rather before going to sleep just visualized climbing a rope or ladder for a minute or so while repeating in my mind "Now, I'm out-of-body".  It seems like by just expressing my intention while falling asleep it somehow caused me to wake up later (I'm not sure how much later) at the right time to OBE.  I think I'm generally sleep deprived and I typically will fall asleep within a few minutes any time my head hits the pillow so maybe that worked to my advantage in that I was able to easily hold my intention/thoughts on OBE at the moment I fell asleep.

In all three experiences I was lucid enough in the beginning to realize that I was out of my body, and to decide what to do next.  The first two times I went through our bedroom wall out onto our deck and the 3rd time I went downstairs and out the front door.  But each time after that the experience devolved to where I was still aware that I was having an OBE but the events were very dreamlike and nonsensical and not that vivid.  I've got to try next time to keep more clarity and awareness. []

[T_Kman0610]

i've heard of that technique, i printed it out before off the internet. Accept i didnt have as much success as you did, i tried the techinque alot and every so offten before sleeping i would feel the vibes, but i wasnt able to get out. is there any way to make them stronger? im wondering if im not trying hard enough. for the past few days i have een trying to AP with no vibes or anything, i would just fall asleep. thats kind of why i posted this. but anyways i thank you RJA for posting that, it was very interesting. well if you have any info on how to make the vibes better and how to control an AP more, drop me a line, id love to hear from ya. well bye[]

[RJA]

Lately that technique hasn't worked for me.  I noticed that on those occasions where it did get me to the vibrational state, I seemed to be at the right point between sleep and wake so that when I started doing the technique I really felt the interior motion of going down and back up.  Usually though, like now I imagine myself dropping down and then coming back up but that's all it is - imagining, - I don't *feel* the movement.  This makes me think that the technique is less important that doing it when other things are already happening, - i.e. right place between wake and sleep, right type of brain waves occurring, etc.

I tend to think that if you hit the "window" where those brain states are right that any variety of technique will get the vibrations going but that if those other conditions aren't present the OBE techniques aren't going to work as well.

Last night I woke up at 3:15am and did the "Mind awake, body asleep" technique posted in another thread out here.  It got me to a light trance I think (like I said, I'm a beginner so I don't even know for sure what a "trance" state should feel like) and I stayed there for an hour, kind of right on the edge of sleep where it seemed like my body was asleep and my mind was kind of doing a variety of creative visualizations and neat things.  But despite playing around with a variety of different OBE techniques (rope, ladder, falling, etc.) - no vibrational state.[]

[T_Kman0610]

just wondering if anyone has any new AP tech.'s or if they dont, they can share theyr recent AP experiences if they want to. well hope to hear from ya all. bye[]