AP Technique....Help Requested.

glowsoftly · January 03, 2004, 16:45:20

How do I get past the Ichy stage?

I have no idea...sorry.

Risu no Kairu · January 03, 2004, 17:07:42

OK, you sit down, close your eyes, and have this line pop out of you, and focus on death or birth.

What do you do, thougH? Do you think "oh, I'm getting younger!" Do yo uthink "my birthday! My birthday!"

I don't understand how I'm supposed to focus on getting to my birth.

glowsoftly · January 03, 2004, 17:21:11

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You don't think anything....just focus on moving your consciousness outwards (creating a line behind you) to the point in time of either your birth or your death.

Risu no Kairu · January 03, 2004, 21:21:51

But what do I DO? Do I feel/see myself getting younger? Do I remember events from my life? Just picture myself as a baby? What?

I need more information than "go to your birth."

Kerrblur · January 04, 2004, 01:45:37

GLOW,

YOU ARE A GENIUS! I DID IT, I DID IT! AHHH. OOOO man!!! I sat in my lazyboy chair and I did it, instantly my feet got heavy, then my calves felt like they were have a cramp(chlly horse) after I finally got my trance working. HAH I was spinning like I never spinned before!!! ooo dont get me wrong, i had the spinning sensations but not like this! this technique is instant almost.

I sat in the lazyboy, and imagined I was connected to a line like you said, but my mind wouldnt work wid it, so I just imagined i was hooked to some kind of line, lol and imagined me going backward on what i called in my head, a 'time line' as I moved back,

It was earlier in time and at the end, lol my birth like you said, but i didnt lol haha imagine i was being born or anything haha. It is hard to type what I did, but ill say it and make a exmaple. hmm, okay! i got it maybe, tell me if you understand this. Before I tried this technique I tried figureing out what you ment, and I thought It might work if I treat this technique like a game, and every game has rules, so I set some rules for myself that this line would be 'the line of time' and when I would start I would already know without trying to visualize anything, as I followed this line further behind me that the time line would 'infact' be earlier in the past to the point of birth at the end. So in my head all I did was pretend I'm going backwards with this line I couldnt see 'already knowing' that this is going back in time and when I deside to stop was the birth point. kinda like when you drive, you kinda automatically throw your seat belt on, or automatically go into the turning lane to turn.

I had focus on my solar plexus everytime I breathed in, lol and when I breathed out, i moved alittle more!

The vibrations came instantly almost!!! f*cking awesome! It was allsudden pressure on my chest and stuff and spinning then outa nowhere form looking at my eyelids, I was 10-15 feet away inches from the fireplace across the room!!! I stayed only a few seconds. lol have to take orders from astral dynamics alittle heh oh man good work my man!!

Kerrblur · January 04, 2004, 01:49:33

Sorry bout my caveman typing! am alittle excited here, first not lucid believable projection!

glowsoftly · January 04, 2004, 05:54:20

Hey Risu [

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You don't need to think anything...just concentrate...travelling towards your birth time point.

So move your awareness to your solar plexus...then push outwards with the intention to travel to the point of time of your birth or death point of time.

Thats it... just focus on moving towards the point of time you were born.

Appreciate you trying this

Hope this helps...if not let me know..
glow

glowsoftly · January 04, 2004, 05:59:55

Hey Kerrblur [

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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You deserve it man, for your persistence in understanding

BIG THANKYOU for giving this tech a go, and for naming the tech.

Now known as the 'Life-Line Technique' [

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[8D]

SpectralDragon · January 05, 2004, 11:12:00

This is a very intruiging technique... My congrats to glow[

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I noticed when I go back in time a "copy" of myself goes forward, and when I move forward the copy goes backward. This is interesting. I wonder why that happens?

The technique is not instant in your head, though I wonder if it is instant in the body? I would have to test this to find out. I will let you guys know in a few days time. (or maybe I could use this technique to go forward...kidding, kidding LOL)

glowsoftly · January 05, 2004, 11:55:48

Hi SpectralDragon [

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Thanks for the congratulations, but really I just stumbled on this quite by accident.

It would be great if you could try it, look forward to hearing your results [

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I'm trying to convince Jeff[8D] to help me write up a proper tech...hint hint Jeff [

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Goodluck
glowy

Jeff_Mash · January 05, 2004, 12:41:02

quote:
Originally posted by glowsoftly
I'm trying to convince Jeff[8D] to help me write up a proper tech...hint hint Jeff []

No worries, Glow. I'll help ya....but only if you give me a scooby snack! [

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glowsoftly · January 05, 2004, 14:52:03

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Mystic Cloud · January 05, 2004, 15:20:55

Sounds like an interesting thing to try the next time

One thing that I started to ponder about was that do you concentrate on your spiritual self or your physical self when moving along the life line.

Or do you just move along the line?

glowsoftly · January 05, 2004, 17:09:21

Hey Mystic Cloud [

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Well when I do it...the line is created as my attention/focus moves out from my solar plexus area (behind me). Its just moving your awareness to the time point (birth/death).

I think I will draw some pictures so you guys might better understand me [

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Goodluck Mystic and let us know how you get on. [

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glowsoftly · January 06, 2004, 10:18:08

Big Big thanks to Jeff for his help and patience [8D]

You can find the technique (with illustrations) at the link below:

http://obejournal.com/LifeLineTechnique.htm

Goodluck [

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Huwie · January 06, 2004, 10:41:17

Hahahaha, nice illustrations! [

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glowsoftly · January 06, 2004, 15:58:30

Thanks Huwie,
You don't need washing up liquid either to get that cat suit off [

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Nomus · January 07, 2004, 04:27:51

WoW!

Soooooooo much simpler than what I tried last night...Big thanks for the illustration.[

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glowsoftly · January 07, 2004, 06:53:10

Your Welcome Nomus [

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Tell me...did it work for you[?]

OverDriven · January 07, 2004, 07:57:54

I've tried this technique two nights in a row, and both nights lost consciousness once I reached the end of the line. The odd thing is that I usually do not lose consciousness this quickly if I do lose it at all. I'm wondering if the technique worked, but I missed the conscious exit.

Candieapple · January 07, 2004, 09:59:00

I tried the technique and had a "Lucid Dream Projection". I agreed with Jeff Mash that I didn't like the idea of going forward "to death" on the time line (because of lying down the "to birth" line would go down). So I figured I'd lay on my side and I went down the "to birth" line by seeing dates along the line and consciously moved with them, fell asleep, woke up in a lucid dream thinking about what I was just doing and popped out and above myself in a different place, flew around inside, went outside flying by an old lady walking down the street who didn't notice me, got REAL heavy and began crawling back to my body up the street, then woke up.

Upon waking up I was alittle upset to realize it was a lucid dream and not an OBE, so I referred back to RB's book under "lucid dream projection" and sure enough - was reminded that he always has ldp's when laying on his left side. He recommends sitting up for best OBE chance!

Has anyone ever had an OBE from lying on side? Or has anyone tried "The Life Line Technique" laying on their back. Is it that the line can't go into the earth and must stretch out in the ethers? I'll try sitting next time.[

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Jeff_Mash · January 07, 2004, 10:34:03

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Originally posted by Candieapple
Has anyone ever had an OBE from lying on side?

Using the OBE Journal program, here are the results of ALL my OBE positions:

Analysis: Position

You've had 31 experiences (30%) in an unknown position.
On your right side, you've had 18 experiences (17%).
On your left side, you've had 11 experiences (10%).
On your stomach, you've had 19 experiences (18%).
On your back, you've had 22 experiences (21%).

As you can see, it is possible to have OBE's on your sides. I just happen to have more on my back.

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Or has anyone tried "The Life Line Technique" laying on their back. Is it that the line can't go into the earth and must stretch out in the ethers? I'll try sitting next time.[]

I know that both glowsoftly and Ryan Kerr have had success with this in a sitting position. Personally, I have never tried to project sitting down, simply because I don't have a chair comfortable enough to do so.

I am going to be experimenting with this technique some more. Mainly, since I project from a laying position, I want to see a couple of things:

1) Instead of moving FORWARD to your death time, is it possible to imagine yourself moving forward to your birth time? I would think that this is just a matter of personal perspective, and it can be done.

2) Do you have to use your solar plexus chakra to project, or can you do the same thing with your brow or crown chakras?

Those are things I want to look into, so if any of you are able to test them out and report back, I would appreciate it.

APGuy · January 07, 2004, 13:24:59

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Originally posted by OverDriven

I've tried this technique two nights in a row, and both nights lost consciousness once I reached the end of the line. The odd thing is that I usually do not lose consciousness this quickly if I do lose it at all. I'm wondering if the technique worked, but I missed the conscious exit.

That's exactly what happened with me. I'm quite good at keeping conciousness also. This made me think the same thing and to the best of my knowledge I can't think of why else I might have fallen asleep besides the slight bit of tiredness I had. However I'm used to staying awake while tired so this possibility is unlikely.

Kerrblur · January 07, 2004, 16:58:33

Okay, sorry for me being away for soo long, computer problems.

I am going to look into this program! lol but anyway, I have tried it over and over again laying down and I could not do the 'Life Line' Technique working, but for the past couple of days now since I first (thanks glow over and over agian) consciously projected without being gay 'Lucid' I have always got this technique working while sitting in a nice comfortable Lazy Boy Recliner [

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I like how candieapple tried it on her side, I could NEVER even concentrate on my side, and Now that I think of it this technique would be AWESOME to project into lucid. I have alot of experience in lucid dreaming. |Candieapple| Did the Life Line technique work quite well while on the side? I'm going to have to try that.

Anyway I Have been projecting left and right! seeing some scarey things ion my house and just laughing!! And for some reason, most people as myself would be scared, and have fear, but I was SOO excited, that I just laughed at them, and yelled 'look at you! hah!' lol no evil looking people come in my house nomore, lol there the laughstock of 2004 in here hah. Okay ill ttyl later

APGuy · January 07, 2004, 17:40:58

I forgot to mention in my last post that I felt as if I had two arms (one of which was at a 45 degree angle.) It was interesting, I haven't experienced duel limbs since I first started trying to OBE. I'll try it sitting up on a couch and see if position does have much of a factor. While tired even though I was sitting up a little I nearly fell asleep but caught myself. However I had to stop because I was going to watch a movie.

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