Is it possible to astral project when you're not tired?
That's the only time I can astral project. When I'm tired I am never able to control what happens.
Speaking from my own personal experience, no, not for me - but I'm just a noobie (with a really loose astral body). I can only really project when I fall asleep, I've only accomplished it a couple times from trance.
When I am tired enough to fall asleep I usually just wake up in my dreams and make an OBE happen or, even better, just roll over in my sleep and realize I've rolled out of body. :lol:
I project better after a good night's sleep. In fact, my longest projections have been after a good night's sleep.
FWTW.
Your energy level seems to be the highest for about the first 6 hours after you wake up.
Absolutely. You can project at anytime.
If you study occult AP practices they rarely talk about sleep. For example, one of the AP techniques I learned from an Osborne Phillips book teaches you to generate "astral substance" from your abdomen (third chakraish area), form an astral double, then transfer your consciousness to the double and...."Onward HO!" You can also use a similar method, without transferring your consciousness, to create an "astral watcher" which will go out into the world and collect information for you. Kind of like remote viewing. Anyway, point being, no where is it mentioned that you need to be tired. In occult practice, particularly if you are a member of an occult group (you know, like the good ol' Golden Dawn), your training is based on the strict discipline of learning to not only control your state of consciousness, but also control of your true will. Therefore, when you undertake AP in this scenario you have most likely spent a number of years training yourself to be able to alter your consciousness on a whim.
The reason that it is usually recommended that you be tired in the books that we "westernized" folks read about OBE, is because generally speaking we usually haven't spent years training and conditioning our mind/body to be able to shift our consciousness at will. So, for those of us who are lazy couch potatoes and have yet to realize that we could have spent that same time meditating, it's easier to achieve the state of mind necessary to project if we're already in the lighter sleep states. For those people that are conditioned to achieve trance easily, they can project anytime they like in a matter of minutes. Like Robert Bruce. In AD he says that through his years of AP practice he has trained himself to enter trance and achieve a successful OBE in 15 minutes.
Personally, I'm the most successful when I practice in the afternoon when I need to take a nap. I don't do what RB recommended, which was to take a nap then practice, I practice when I wanna take a nap. The morning after waking up is good too, but I usually get up and eat breakfast, have some coffee, smoke a cigarette, take a pee and give myself an hour or two to wake up a little before I lay down. Being tired helps me achieve the right state of mind. But it's not necessary if you're competent at recreating that mind state at will.
Same here,
My best projections were after a good 5-6 hours of sleep.
I think you can but its hard. The only time I astral projected when I wasnt tired I didnt have any energy to do anything when I got out of my body. Being wide awake doesnt make your obe's any better.