I have tried...and tried

[RedMosha1]

Hey guys,

I have been trying to have an OBE or some form of spiritual experience for ages...over a few years now...

I've tried CD's, techniques and everything...

The furthest I got was using a soundtrack and I got shivers and like a feeling I was underwater....I tried so hard to get past it but I had no idea what to do....

The CD was telling me to throw a ball up in the air and catch it with my astral body, I did it and it worked (i got these shiver-like energy going up and down my body) but I couldnt get further than that!!!!

Someone help..

[Greenrat]

have you tried an of bruces NEW tecniques??
try raising energy to your brain, and feel awareness actions swooshing about inside it.
maybe your body isnt relaxed enough- do some yoga or maybe go for a jog before.

a good NEW tecnique is *FEEL* a mouse crawling from your groin, in a straight line ending at your brow, feel its little nails digging in your skin, feel its weight etc.. when it gets to the brow, make another one do the same and keep doing it.

make sure you keep focused too, it could be you arent maintaining the fixed focus.
i find doing some sitting meditation before helps.
good luck

[kiwibonga]

RedMosha1, you're trying too hard to make it happen, which grounds you in your physical body.

Have you tried to experiment with sleep? Start forming images in your mind as if you were trying to follow a train of thought to fall asleep, and try to snap out of it so you can experience the passage from awake to asleep.

As you practice this, you will eventually get some experiences. The trick to inducing an OBE is very similar to a trick to fall asleep -- if you think about falling asleep too much, you will never fall asleep.

Let your subconscious take over, but don't let it take control entirely, that's the key to achieving a trance state. Give yourself the goal of falling asleep easily first. If you can master falling asleep and notice your body falling asleep, you will be able to go into trance much more easily.

[Kodemaster]

Hey RedMosha,

Been there too...Try this technique; it will really help!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19319

Best,

Jen