hi i was curious if anyone has any stories or links to stories of people meeting deceased through astral projection. also i was curious, how does one know such meetings are not deceptions by other types of beings (ex. demons) ? in other words how do those who experience such meetings know they are legit or not?
I won't spoil it for you... do a forum search for posts written by a wonderful retrieval specialist named Ginny.
She has lots of wonderful stories that she shared here. :)
what does retrieval mean? and what does Focus mean?
Quote from: Gabe911 on December 04, 2010, 15:56:10
what does retrieval mean? and what does Focus mean?
Well, "Focus" will be slightly harder to define for you than retrievals... but suffice to say that a Focus is a specific area in consciousness. Try not to worry about it too much.
A "Retrieval" is when someone goes to one of these Focuses and saves a person from being in what we call an emotional loop.
Hmmm... I guess that doesn't really explain much. >_>
Keep reading Ginny's stuff, I believe she explains it in one of her posts much better than I ever could. :)
Is the "retrieval" supposed to be by means of astral projection?
Retrievals is when a physically living person goes APing and moves a deceased from one of the Monroe Focuses 23, 24, 25 or 26 to Focus 27. On rare occasions the retrieval can also be done from Focus 22. You can also retrieve (domestic) animals which are deceased and got stuck in Focus 23.
Usually the retrieval needs a lot of help from discarnates which already are in F 27.
Bruce Moen is perhaps one of the most knowledgeable in retrievals, and has written several books on the subject.
Hallo Gabe
The most common experience of meeting a deceased family member during an OBE is actually during a Near death experience. If you peruse a dozen or more accounts of NDEs at nderf.org you will probably read one or more stories of someone who had a near death experience and went out of body and encountered a deceased family relative during their experience.
Regards 8-)
Grey
Quote from: Greytraveller on December 04, 2010, 22:58:44
Hallo Gabe
The most common experience of meeting a deceased family member during an OBE is actually during a Near death experience. If you peruse a dozen or more accounts of NDEs at nderf.org you will probably read one or more stories of someone who had a near death experience and went out of body and encountered a deceased family relative during their experience.
Regards 8-)
Grey
Oh, I didn't know that website existed! I'll have to spend some time one day and check it out.
Thanks :)
I searched for "Ginny" and "Ginny retrieval" and came up with nothing =\
I'm very interested in reading about retrievals!
-Firmitas
Don't search for Ginny, search for posts BY Ginny... and in the search field type "retrieval".
That should net you some good posts. I just did it and found a bunch.
Quote from: Xanth on December 04, 2010, 23:24:37
Oh, I didn't know that website existed! I'll have to spend some time one day and check it out.
Thanks :)
They have two sister sites on OBEs and on ADCs also worthy to check out:
http://www.oberf.org/
http://www.adcrf.org/
http://www.adcrf.org/adcrf_research.htm
Btw, I am not sure if NDEs is the main method to meet the deceased (relatives). There is also the ADC (after-death communication) perception/manifestation event which is reportedly VERY common (see site).
And another still very new method consists of INDUCED ADCs, developed by psychologist Alan Bottkin.
Here is some stuff on this if you're interested:
http://induced-adc.com/
Thanks for adding those links, some interesting reads.