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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: elliotnz on April 19, 2014, 23:13:43

Title: Astral log
Post by: elliotnz on April 19, 2014, 23:13:43
Please give me advice. I really want to

Yesterday: Woke up in morning and listened to ringing in ears.  Due to the medication I'm on I'm pretty sedated.  I fell back off to sleep and then as I was waking up I strongly felt my phantom arm. Opening my eyes I immediately thought "ahhh! I have 3 arms"  It was a very strange experience.

Today I woke up at 9:30 and did the listening to ear ringing technique.  I've read it works after one hour and 30 minutes for the guy who came up with it. In bed I decided I needed some less passive astral techniques that won't make me go to sleep.

Here are two other things I'm thinking of trying:

1. My friend recommended I astral project from lucid dream. Due to my relative ease of Lucid dreaming.

2. I'm thinking of is setting alarms to wake me up in the night and without moving do astral projection techniques.  I guess I'll need to experiment to make the alarm duration long enough to wake me up and short enough to get in the way of the AP techniques (e.g 30 second long alarm).



Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: Lionheart on April 19, 2014, 23:29:40
 I know I am probably going to get attacked for saying this, but due to your current condition I don't think you should go any further with this.

Schizophrenia is nothing to fool with. This is a serious disease/disorder.

You will read many frightening occurrences that our members without Schizophrenia have experienced. Your fears will definitely show themselves. With Schizophrenia that's the last thing you need

I say this with only your well being in mind! Please heed my warning!

I apologize if I offended you or anyone else with my statement, but I feel it needs to be said. Too many authors of AP books seem to overlook this. But I feel it must be stated.
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: elliotnz on April 19, 2014, 23:38:24
it is a bit of a downer but then you don't want me to get messed up
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: Lionheart on April 19, 2014, 23:43:06
 Like I said, I have your best interests in mind.

Be well my friend!
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: AAAAAAAA on April 19, 2014, 23:54:04
Just do what you want. As long as it feels right in your heart, it probably is. Just be aware of the dangers considering your condition. As long as you're careful, and you aren't abusing medications, you're body will know how to handle itself (assuming you have no other serious problems). If you are doing something harmful to your body, trust me, your body will let you know, haha.
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: elliotnz on April 20, 2014, 00:09:27
I might see something disturbing?  That doesn't sound as bad as taking a mind altering substance while having schizophrenia

your thoughts :)

it seems to me that drugs are like opening doors in your psych whereas AP is  "travel."
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: AAAAAAAA on April 20, 2014, 00:53:15
Quote from: elliotnz on April 20, 2014, 00:09:27
I might see something disturbing?  That doesn't sound as bad as taking a mind altering substance while having schizophrenia

your thoughts :)

it seems to me that drugs are like opening doors in your psych whereas AP is  "travel."

In a way they are both the same. Things that are in your subconscious mind can manifest in the astral.
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: elliotnz on April 20, 2014, 01:03:00
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 20, 2014, 00:53:15
In a way they are both the same. Things that are in your subconscious mind can manifest in the astral.

How do you react to drugs? ill have a puff of weed and have two weeks recovering due to my medication not being compatible

i dont touch drugs anymore :/
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: AAAAAAAA on April 20, 2014, 01:42:43
Quote from: elliotnz on April 20, 2014, 01:03:00
How do you react to drugs? ill have a puff of weed and have two weeks recovering due to my medication not being compatible

i dont touch drugs anymore :/

I stay away from all drugs. I really screwed myself over last time I did anything.
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: Lionheart on April 20, 2014, 03:48:29
 AAAAAAAA , I'm just curious, how many times have you come across this situation and how many people were effected in a very serious way because of "just doing what they wanted" and not realizing the implications of that decision?

I have come across this conversation here and other places quite a bit and almost every time it worked out bad for the person.

I also speak with psychologists and healers that all say it's a bad choice. You can't take it back once you start down this road.

This leads back to another thread here recently on a similar topic of "Experiences leading to never Aping again". Although this one is for medical reason which makes it even more severe.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/experiences_leading_to_never_aping_again-t44307.0.html
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: AAAAAAAA on April 20, 2014, 04:15:14
Quote from: Lionheart on April 20, 2014, 03:48:29
AAAAAAAA , I'm just curious, how many times have you come across this situation and how many people were effected in a very serious way because of "just doing what they wanted" and not realizing the implications of that decision?

I have come across this conversation here and other places quite a bit and almost every time it worked out bad for the person.

I also speak with psychologists and healers that all say it's a bad choice. You can't take it back once you start down this road.

This leads back to another thread here recently on a similar topic of "Experiences leading to never Aping again". Although this one is for medical reason which makes it even more severe.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/experiences_leading_to_never_aping_again-t44307.0.html


Who knows? Those are just my morals, and it's not just doing what you want, it's doing what's in your heart, i suppose I should have been more clear on that. And if I get hurt or something for doing that, well, that's on me. And I don't expect anyone to feel bad or anything, because that's my decision. Also, obviously no one here has to take my advice. So if you or anyone else thinks that it's potentially dangerous, that's okay too. I should probably clarify, I want everyone here to be safe, and keep in mind, I am still learning to. It's just a forum anyhow, if someone thinks they could potentially get hurt, then I don't expect them to listen to me.

EDIT : I hope my first post in this thread wasn't taken the wrong way
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: elliotnz on April 20, 2014, 06:01:30
Not for argument sake I just want to know

Lion heart do you have any links or experiences where it involved schizophrenia and it hit the fan?
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: elliotnz on April 20, 2014, 06:14:11
I'll do kudalini first.
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: Lionheart on April 20, 2014, 06:25:32
Quote from: elliotnz on April 20, 2014, 06:01:30
Lion heart do you have any links or experiences where it involved schizophrenia and it hit the fan?
Yes there are many of them here. But not all of them are bad. 

Do a search on "Schizophrenia" in the upper right hand corner search engine. But make sure you do it on the Home page. Otherwise your search will just be in this subforum here.

You will likely find some helpful information there.
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: elliotnz on April 25, 2014, 04:31:51
*never mind*
Title: Re: Astral log
Post by: PlasmaAstralProjection on April 25, 2014, 06:21:06
Speaking from some experience. I would say it's fine as long as your pretty stable mentally. If your not stable then no I wouldn't do it.

Peace.