Astral / OBE Discomfort

[rednaxela]

Hi I'm new here.

When in the state of the process of leaving the body - I get pains or squeezing in my solar plexus area as if someone has put to daggers just above my pelvic area. There is also a feeling of a line or cable of energy over my tummy area pressing down. I have to bang my feet and move my legs to come back - it takes great effort!

Also I have problems breathing at this point when leaving the body as if I'm starting to suffocate. I read in Astral Dynamics that there is a unknown diagnosis of people who stop breathing during their sleep but the body's instincs kick in and the person rolls over and partally wakes up, etc. Sometimes in these states I can hear snoring so maybe its my mind that thinks it still needs to breath. But sometimes its like I am no longer breathing and I have to force myself to breath.

I can go further but out of fear I resist. This state happened today during and after listening to a meditation session with delta frequencies laying on the sofa. I got the feeling of people there saying "its ok your fine go on."

If I went further I think I would have felt the vibrations come in - I've had this once and believe me you will know it! Its like the washer machine suddenly go into its high spin cycle.

This leaving the body state does not happen all the time but spontaneously. I've heard the your higher self is usually guiding most of your trips so you are always safe.

Please advise or any comments on the above. Thanks.

[Mez]

I think its called sleep apnea when you're at risk of suddenly stopping breathing while you're asleep.

[3-mortalit33]

I have to bang my feet and move my legs to come back - it takes great effort!

Do you mean that it takes a while for you to reanimate your physical body? Are you experiencing sleep paralysis?

Also I have problems breathing at this point when leaving the body as if I'm starting to suffocate.

Maybe you've just lost all awareness of your breathing due to the mind/body detachment.

Sometimes in these states I can hear snoring so maybe its my mind that thinks it still needs to breath.

Perhaps you were in your astral body and you heard your physical body snoring, this has happened to me before.

[rednaxela]

Do you mean that it takes a while for you to reanimate your physical body? Are you experiencing sleep paralysis?

Usually it is quite quick (in our time) - not long periods.  How would you define sleep paralysis?

[3-mortalit33]

Sleep Paralysis:

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=9806

[iNNERvOYAGER]

When fully relaxed, lying on the back or sitting in a reclining chair, my jaw goes completely slack, my mouth opens,
and causes my pallet to shift into a sleep apnea like position.

If the mouth opens, then you'll notice later that your tongue goes dry and feels as if you've eaten something salty.

To prevent this, I put a small pillow or piece of foam under my chin. This allows me to relax in an trance while keeping the mouth shut.

Did you ever see the movie of Dickens' A Chrismas Carol, and some old geezer is in bed with a wrap under his chin and tied on top of his head?
I'm not sure if I want to go that far, maybe when I'm older. lol

[cssc]

"Also I have problems breathing at this point when leaving the body as if I'm starting to suffocate. "

I remember early on sometimes I would have to purposefully breathe . I reminded myself to let the diaphragm take in the air. It's so much better than trying to breath into your chest. It happens. Probably with practice these symptoms will dissipate.
   
   Some of your other problems sound chakra related, but I don't know too much about that kind of thing.