Friends,
Well, I finally initialized my crystal in the moonlight using sea salt for the last 3 days. I was lucky enough to have had the crystal a few days before the full moon in which I started.
Anyways, I've noticed in the last few days that my dream recall is getting a little better and experienced my first projection today with holding the crystal in my hand physically.
Never a less, if the crystal is helping cool but if its just a big old stone - its definitely attractive and a talk piece.
Anyone here have conducted any experiments with crystals regarding the effects on astral projection? Also, I've heard that its good to have a crystal that is for grounding and protection.. Can anyone contribute?
Tvos
QuoteWell, I finally initialized my crystal in the moonlight using seasalt for the last 3 days. I was lucky enough to have had the crystal a few days before the full moon in which I started.
Let me guess...you've been reading lots of mystical books on AP. Don't forget to face north under running water during the 5th moon cycle or you'll be toast! Man, none of this is needed and soon you'll be worried that your crystal isn't charged enough and so you'll fret about this possibility while you are trying to Obe or phase and these thoughts will screw you up. All this is mumbo jumbo old school mystical junk. Don't get caught up in all this superstition or you'll just create limiting beliefs.
QuoteNever a less, if the crystal is helping cool but if its just a big old stone - its definitely attractive and a talk piece
True. Good attitude
QuoteAlso, I've heard that its good to have a crystal that is for grounding and protection
Protection? From What? I will let you in on a little secret......THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS NEGS. Do yourself a favor and look up all you can on Focus 2 in Franks Phasing model. When most people say the "Astral" what they mean is Focus 2. In Focus 2 Thoughts=Reality. So if you think you will see devils, guess what..YOU WILL. Now, why is this. The mystics used to think you were "out of Body" and that your thoughts draw these things to you, now we know this is not the case. In focus 2 you are actually projecting into your subconscious mind, so you can literally make up any place and any scenario. Read up on Franks Phasing model in the Permanent Astral Topics for a better understanding of the wider reality.
Fear is the mind killer and even BELIEVING in these things is enough to hold you back. They truly only exist in your head.
Han
If you don't believe in the effects of crystals Hans, then why bother commenting?
Have you ever actually experienced their possibilities? Have you ever actually made use of them and seen what they can or can't do?
Have you ever even considered the possibilities that the piezo-electric properties of quartz allows it to alter vibrational frequencies of energy fields, such as the bio-electric energy field of the human body?
Have you considered that the different colours, caused by different impurities affect the frequencies at which quartz oscillates, and that the human energy field also has varying frequencies depending on what region of the body your working with?
Have you also considered that a great many of the afflictions or conditions that we experience in out physical bodies are caused by the condition of our energy body - the life force energy that is a part of all things?
If you haven't, then all you are doing is speaking out of YOUR BELIEFS!
People have been effectively studying and using varieties of quartz crystals in healing practices for many thousands of years. It is not a technique that is in any way new to us, but it is one that has largely been ignored by modern science and medicine, though many naturopaths, many of which are fully trained and qualified general medical practitioners, have found uses for crystals in wholistic medicine.
So why don't you open up your seemingly narrow, limiting beliefs, stop calling it mumbo-jumbo, accept the possibilities that there may be natural laws behind these things that you just don't know about yet, and maybe put a bit of time into finding out if crystals do or don't have any benefit yourself. If you're not at all interested, then please let others pursue their interest without rubishing their ideas.
In the mean-time...
the voice of silence,
Crystals to aid in astral projection are more a case of personal preference, though many varieties of quartz in the purple / violet colour range are supposed to be very helpful here.
For grounding, Hematite - a form of iron ore is very effective, or tiger-eye or smokey quartz for something a little softer but still effective.
For protection, flourite is exceptionally good, and helps with harsh EM energies as well. There are many other stones that can be used for protection - obsidian, agate, aventurine.
Consider though that when dealing with issues of psychic protection, you want to be considering it only from a point of keeping away some of the more negative energies, esp negative emotional energies from people around you. To go much further down the path of psychic protection means you could end up becoming your own worst worst enemy by manifesting negativities through your own fears.
Treat psychic protection as something akin to puting on insect repellant - be aware of it, do something about it if you feel the need, then relax and have confidence that what you've done will help. The old "prevention is better than cure" thing works well here, and the best form of prevention is to keep yourself in a positive frame of mind. Think of it as the light dispelling the dark.
Blessings,
James.
QuoteIf you don't believe in the effects of crystals Hans, then why bother commenting
My beliefs are just as valid as yours. You didn't tell him you were a crystal healer. So, now he gets both sides of the issue. Crystalline structures, such as crystals, do have special properties with energy. Thus, this is why we use silicone in computers. Hell, even Atlantis had the "Great Crystal" which powered everything and was used in their "death ray".
QuotePeople have been effectively studying and using varieties of quartz crystals in healing practices for many thousands of years. It is not a technique that is in any way new to us, but it is one that has largely been ignored by modern science and medicine, though many naturopaths, many of which are fully trained and qualified general medical practitioners, have found uses for crystals in wholistic medicine
They also ate goat gonads and tiger penises too, but that doesn't mean it works!
QuoteCrystals to aid in astral projection are more a case of personal preference, though many varieties of quartz in the purple / violet colour range are supposed to be very helpful here.
Lets see if even the New Age community can agree on this: (these are "ap"stones, or listed as such)
http://thunderwolfsrealm.com/BOS/crystals1.html
1.Apophyllite, color=clearish green
2.Hermatite, color=black/maroon
3.lolite, color=purple
http://www.aznewage.com/crystals.htm
1.azurite, color= blue with green swirls (vice versa)
2.Hermaitie, color=black
3.Silver, color=silver (aligns astral +physical bodies.....WHAT?!!)
http://www.crystalbalance.com/InfoAZ.asp
1.Agate Natural, color=Orange/Green
2.Angelite, color=Powder blue
3.Bismuth, color=blueish,greenish (the color when oil is mixed with water)
4.Calcite Mangano, color=milky, to milky pink
Wow! A virtual kaleidoscope of colors and rocks will help you with astral travel. However, this is only half of the story. Whenever a rock was listen on multiple sites, guess what, the different sites had TOTALLY different description of what it does! One has to conclude that this has to do with the placebo effect if not New Age mumbo Jumbo/fraud.(keep'em buying/chasing for that magical stone which will rocket them in to the "Astral").
Oh, and almost EVERY stone (or at least half) seem to help with protection, must be a lot of scared New Agers running around.
just my opinion, could be wrong,
Han
Ps. Penn&Teller: Email me for show ideas.
Hans,
How long have you been involved with projecting and experiences?
Tvos
Probably about a year and a half. The only reason I posted this is because in the beginning I was the same as most people on this board. Trying to find that magical something that will shoot me into the astral. I spend a lot of money and nothing seemed to work, and yes I even bought crystals and the like.
I was so scared of negs that I had trouble falling asleep and when I would go into deep trance and would here voices or pops it would really freak me out. This fear is the sole reason I had trouble projecting.
The reason I refer to Frank's Post so often is because this is the information that pulled me out of this stagnate cycle. I guess it is a kin to telling all your friends how awesome a movie is and that they HAVE to see it! :D
James S- I am open to the possibility that crystals work. In fact, I hope they do, I love to see alternative medicine gaining footholds in modern medicine. All I was saying is that this most likely won't be the magic bullet that shoots people into the astral, and that they should probably save their money if they are on a tight budget. You have most Definitely seen results using crystals in healing and I don't doubt this claim. I was referring more on the AP level of things. Sorry chap.
Han
A friend of mine who has had about 5 years of AP experience recommended a bismuth crystal. It's said to have the properties of easing astral projection, as well as easing feelings of loneliness. I bought one fairly inexpensively. It is very beautiful--a whole rainbow spectrum of colors, and very intricate shapes. I think it has boosted the clarity of my dreams a bit. I had begun to have APs before I got the crystal. I haven't noticed any change in quantity or quality. Not yet, at least. But like you say, it is a very gorgeous, fascinating object! :)
Hans,
That's what I thought about your limited projections... try 17yrs and having over thousands of projections and then come back to me and say there's nothing to fear... "You will be afraid!"
Have you ever read CW.Ledbetter, Blavatsky, Egyptian Hermetics, Muldoon and Carrington, Castaneda, Fox? - These authors are definitely not "new age".
Anyways, like you I found out that it comes within to project and the true desire to succeed. I'm a analytical thinker and scientist with astral projection. I like to try and test different methods it being crystals, ganzfield effect, trance method induced by sound. But the one that gets me out all the time is the hypnogogic state.
I did purchase a crystal a few weeks ago and its beautiful! If anything its actually kinda of sexy and my wife thinks so too..:)
But the true nature of projecting - everyone has their method. What works for one doesn't mean it will work for the other.
After all these years I still think I'm a novice at ap and still have a long way to go. I never cut people down for their beliefs, actions, or words for what they practice. I like helping others and sharing my experiences so they can learn and vice versa.
Just food for thought...
Tvos
QuoteThat's what I thought about your limited projections... try 17yrs and having over thousands of projections and then come back to me and say there's nothing to fear... "You will be afraid
I think you misunderstood me. I believe (not really "believe" but whatever) in Franks theory on Focus 2 and the "Astral". Focus 2 is within you and not outside, so therefore "negs" are thought creation and can not harm you. I too have been the "Astral Warrior" killing all negs in sight and being afraid "sh*tless", untill I read Frank's theory. Now, its not even an issue.
Believe whatever you want, however I believe real progress is in Focus 3 and Focus 4. Unless, you want to change subconscious belief structures in focus 2 (which is what I am working on).
17 years--congrats! I love trying to push all you natural projectors into Focus 3, so everyone can get more knowledge.
If you have time read up on this. Try the slats method, I am interested to hear your results. PM me if you can. I want to hear your Focus3 experiences and I think this post will allow you to go there.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18538&highlight=f2+f3
Han
Quote from: Hans Solo
James S- I am open to the possibility that crystals work. In fact, I hope they do, I love to see alternative medicine gaining footholds in modern medicine. All I was saying is that this most likely won't be the magic bullet that shoots people into the astral, and that they should probably save their money if they are on a tight budget. You have most Definitely seen results using crystals in healing and I don't doubt this claim. I was referring more on the AP level of things. Sorry chap.
Han
No problems Han. :)
Thank you for your thoughts here, I really appreciate them. Now I can see you're not just dissing the whole crystal thing, I'm sorry if I considered your thoughts narrow minded, I can see where you're coming from now.
Where it comes to a lot of the crystal and "new-age" sites on the internet, I tend to be rather sceptical, because many of them are just out to sell something. I have two reference guides for crystals - Judy Hall's "The Crystal Bible", and Melody's "Love Is In The Earth - a Kaleidoscope of Crystals" - possibly one of the largest and most comprehensive crystal guides around. These books are great - they're not trying to sell you on anything (other than buying the book itsself), so I pay more attention to them.
I agree very much that crystals aren't a magic bullet. Funny you should use that phrase - that's exactly what my reiki master said when I attended her crystal healing course last year. Crystals work on the energy body, therefore they tend to have very subtle effects. You can sometimes get a very pronounced effects, but not often.
If you ever meet someone who tries to sell crystals as being some kind of magic cure, or they say it will definitely do this or that, just nod your head, turn around, and walk, or run, far away from them!
You're right in noting that there's so many crystals around of different types that are reported to do the same thing. Very simple answer here - what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. The makeup of our energy bodies are as individual as we are.
For instance, my wife has a different approach to chosing crystals for personal use to most - she doesn't care about what they're supposed to do. She sets firmly in mind what she wants from the crystal, goes up to a collection of crystals, closes her eyes, and feels for the right one, which will usually draw her to it like a magnet. More often than not, we'll look up it's properties after, and she'll have made exactly the right choice. Chances are also that it will be different to one I'd have chosen for the same thing.
It's all so much about personal preference, what works with you. There will always be some common grounds, but still, I always advocate going and trying for yourself.
Blessings,
James.
James,
I just purchased a amethyst and quartz crystal a few weeks ago. I've noticed a increased in dream recall, physical thoughts, objectives carrying over into my dreamllife - which is good.
My question to you is this. Does it hurt to have one or more crystal at a time or should I only use the one I'm wearing now around my neck? Some people have told me that I need a grounding and protection crystal when I project. So far I've been doing this for 17yrs and never really had the need for one. Always found my way back and called on God for sticky situations.
Please advise and Thank You for the info. you talked about earlier in this thread.
Tvos
The human mind is an extraordinary thing. If you can take an objective item like crystals and have it actually help your projection, go for it! But like Han said, we already have all the tools we need to develop this skill. Also, keep in mind that nothing is free, and this applies even to things like a.p. crystals. Watch out for tricky side effects.
voice of silence - You talk like 17 years of experience means something. Sure you can astral project, good for you, but that doesnt mean that you understand the mechanics any more than Han and Frank do. If anything, that amount of experience is a DISadvantage because of all the habits and "mind-rubbish" you come across- like negs. 17 years in the grand scope of things is nothing. Im guessing you were one of those people who either learned all of this on your own or became involved in something "occult". Once you can learn to let go of all the b.s. like han, frank, myself and others, you will have a much more rewarding experience.
Or dont, its up to you. Im not going to tell you how to do this kind of thing.
Ben,
I do appreciate the info about the crystals - what side effects are you talking about?
Secondly, you are right about the 17yrs - its a long road for projecting and I do agree with you on alot of what you say. To me its not how many times one projects, but its the quality and what is being learned. I know it sounds like sometimes I come off the man with the experience, but it actuality I still consider myself a novice.
I came across AP back in 1988 who a friend introduced me and I started reading up on it. I pursued it whole heatedly with fire and conviction to see if it was real or not. I did get my answer within less then two months. After that, I tried different methods to see how I was getting out- pyramids, crystals, food, exercise, etc...etc.. But after awhile when I became fluid and I realized it was just 'me' doing all the work.
I do believe to a degree that alot of what I mentioned earlier did help along the way with practice, but it was the work being put fourth that gave me the success. I never followed any kinda of occult, new age or anything of the sorts. Before 1988 I had exp. projections but on a quick small scale and never payed attention. Also, it was the feelings behind it that I did project that it started to come to me.
I've had my exposure to entities, some pleasant and some I wish not to remember. But I do realize and understand in my experience that I'm shown things for reasons. What kinda of b.s. would you say that I need to let go off?
Please be more specific.
Tvos
Well ive never used crystals myself so i couldnt answer that- im just saying that everything comes at a price so while the short term may benefit from the crystals, there could be some unknown side effects that you would never expect. Just keep your eyes open is all ;)
As for the b.s.- i simply mean any limiting or negative beliefs that you might have. I used negs as an example- il keep that going.
When you project into F2- and im assuming that this is where you have had most of your experiences- you are actually projecting within YOURSELF. So any negs you come across are actually seperations of consciousness that YOU created. Next time you project you can play around with this.
Just think about a monster or something. Soon enough, and i mean soon, you will be face to face with your creation. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS CREATION AND WHAT PEOPLE TYPICALLY CALL "negative entities". We naturally fear the unknown. This is why so many people who practice astral projection face so many "negs"- they dont know what they are doing! In an environment where THOUGHT = ACTION, of COURSE you are gonna come across some creepy sh*t! and i dont blame you, having to practice A.P. by oneself in todays scientific world would probably suck! Luckily we have the internet where you can learn about all the UNKNOWNS ;)
Anyway thats just one example. Just dont limit your beliefs, keep in mind that YOU CANNOT BE HARMED in any way, and you should be fine :)
Ben,
Anything in life comes with a price - if its losing weight, studying for a test, learning how to drive a car. What are the side effects and will it hurt me or propell me? What are the causes of effect, are there any dangers involved etc...
On a percentage of experiences, I would pro bally say that 95% of my experiences are positive, beautiful, breathtaking and enjoyable. The other 5% its inevitable where you will come across entities that are bad and mean harm. I've been in some real tough heart thumping situations
where I never thought I would be back. I've had starred the monster in the face as it said to me "take my hand and be a part of us" and have been attacked. But I am still here!
My question to you is this - I was just listening to audio interviews with Robert the Bruce (gotta love the name). He states that people who are under psychic attacks as like him or he's helped. Do you think they are making all that up?
Tvos
Hi tvos,
It doesn't hurt at all to have more than one crystal or type of crystal on at a time. My wife has some "chakra" jewllery she wears a lot which has several stones for each of the chakras on it. She really likes the feel of it - finds it balancing.
Go with your heart here - wear what you feel led to wear. Right at the moment I have a pewter Dragon pendant that has both Aventurine and Hematite on it. I also have another pure Aventurine pendant that sits over my heart, and I'm carrying a piece of Citrine in my pocket. More often I'll carry a piece of blue Agate around, and sometimes I'll change the Aventurine pendant for an Amethyst pendant.
Each stone helps with different areas of the energy body, and it will often be your intuition that will tell you what areas might enjoy the assistance a crystal will bring.
Your Aventurine & clear quartz combination would be great for dreams. I have those two on my bedside table too. They both help to open up the third eye and crown chakras, helping us to connect with the higher energies or higher planes. Just perfect for dreams, visions or OBEs.
And while everybody here busily tells you what you do or don't need, what is or isn't right, let your experiences and feelings guide you. Trust in them. Your soul brings them to you for a reason.
Blessings,
James.
Blessings,
lola- what negative energies are you talking about? im sorry that sounds way to far fetched to think that there is "negative energy" that can be absorbed by magical crystals. is someone out to get you?
all these crazy useless constructs around here....but to each his own i guess =\
anyway, tvos- i cant comment on the robert bruce thing just cuz i dont have enough info... what do you mean by "psychic attack"? I highly doubt that these people are making it up, but an objective event like a simple headache can be interpreted lots of different ways- or the people could have had a placebo effect. I couldnt say.
i dont pretend to know how they work and i mean no offense- i just dont see why someone would want to waste all this time on shiny pieces of rock and all these beliefs that go along with it. do you put on, take off, and "cleanse" crystals whenever you project? It just doesnt seem productive to me. But like i said, to each his own ;)
Quote from: Ben Ki dont pretend to know how they work and i mean no offense- i just dont see why someone would want to waste all this time on shiny pieces of rock and all these beliefs that go along with it. do you put on, take off, and "cleanse" crystals whenever you project? It just doesnt seem productive to me. But like i said, to each his own ;)
No offence taken. :)
It's good to retain some scepticism about things until you can see for yourself what they can or can't do. Just be open to the possibilities.
I'm not going to preach about the use of crystals, its entirely up to you if you want to know about them or not, but I'd just like to throw a few thoughts your way for consideration.
When you go to use a calculator you don't have to believe it's going to work to make it work. You just switch it on and start punching numbers in.
When you become used to working with crystals, you no longer have to believe that they're going to work for you either. You just pick them up and use them because you know they're going to work. They become like any other tool, the only difference being these tools are not doing their work in the physical plane so we can't measure their effectiveness in a purely empirical "scientific" manner.
So for those of us here who can tell you about the effects or benefits of crystals, its not a belief system. We're not trying to convert people to some kind of religion. They're just tools to be used to do a job.
As to the need for cleansing them... if you've used a knife from the kitchen drawer, you'd wash it before putting it back because it would have residue on it from the last thing you used it on. Crystals are much the same, only the residue that gets left on them is energy. Before you use them again, especially in any kind of healing practice, you need to clean them.
It just all sounds very weird because it's not working with "physical" principals - it's energy based stuff.
Runlola,
QuoteI think of crystals as healing & learning tools.
I haven't really used them for projection but certain
stones have that effect on me. They can be quite powerful.
A definite ditto to that.
I've recently found a prefence towards tumbled stones for everyday use. Their energies are softer. I really have to be in the right mood to cope with the terminated "angular" crystals. I've a double terminated Amethyst pendant that's absolutely gorgeous, but it can send me reeling sometimes.
:)
James
James,
Thank You for the advice and I appreciate it. I've talked with other people on crystals - some say its crazy, some take them into faith. Its all preference and what works. But I can see you are definitely knowledgeable and a great person!
Ben,
You state in your profile you play guitar. What educational level are you at with guitar? novice, average,or pro? What is your background with the instrument? Have you taken theory, how did you learn, what guitar picks do you use, did you have an instructor. How much do you know about transposing, or composition writing? What are the tools that got you there? Lets say you started playing on a $50. cheap guitar - would you have achieved that level of respect playing on a $8,000.00 guitar.
I'm a classical and electric guitarist. I compose/write/perform my own material and do a lot of session work with other musician via internet. I've been through the theory training, composition writing etc..etc. What I am getting at is the tools we use to achieve our level of success will differ from each other. - The same goes with astral projection - its all about what works for one doesn't mean it will work for the other.
Since I've bought my crystal amethyst pendant, I have seen a little more activity in my dreams, being able to recall better. Could it all be coincidence or genuine - what ever! Its fun, I'm having a good time with it and at least I am having some positive results.
I do like your approach of being objective but you also have to give other mechanics to astral projection it a chance.
Tvos
James,
If I'm wearing my quartz and amethyst crystal around my neck. Should I still ever month under the waning full moon cleanse the crystal?
What do you suggest?
Tvos
i am not experienced but i am not stupid i have been trying 3 days with out effect but have been studying for a year now
the most basic thing that i have herder is it is in the thought
i think that if you think the Crystal will work keep using it and cleansing it if you want and let others try what they want to
i am open to the idea of Crystal's having a magical property to them matter of fact i think any thing that is made by some sort of natural process that has not been altered by humans can have some sort of magical property
i think it is best to find what works for you
and if no one minds how long do you fell paralyzed for after returning
Chrishill,
Depends on the hypnogigic state and the experience. I've had at times where my mind awakes and the vibes hit me so hard that I freeze and I just can't move at all which brings terror and a unpleasant start to projecting. Other times, if the vibes are relaxing I can easily slip out gracefully.
On occasion when I return it might take a little bit to re-align into my physical body. I can definitely feel and sense the alignment taking place and the two bodies coming together. Usually, during this process its a natural feeling and there's no paralysis.
Hope this helps..
Tvos
I wish I could find the thread that James talked about nailing some jello onto a tree and you would get the same effect....IF YOU BELIEVE.. of course, I came away with a thumb nailed to the tree! LOL.. Remember James?..lol.
Nay
Hehehe :lol:
Yes, I remember Nay. Your comment cracked me up!
Tvos,
Full moon cleansing?
Yes, absolutely. Especially ones you wear regularly, as they're the ones most likely to get "grubby". If you have some crystals from which you can feel strong effects, be a little carefull of them after a full moon cleansing. They'll tend to be more potent.
Blessings,
James.
James,
Do you think it necessary all the time to cleanse after during every full moon or ever other month? Is it just because of the energy that builds up thru thoughts, emotions, etc..etc.
Tvos
Hi Tvos,
I'll put it this way, I do so every month ...if I remember. :oops:
There's definitely benefit in doing so each full moon, but don't beat yourself up if you forget.
You might feel to cleanse a crystal, particularly one that you wear or carry with you more regularly than that. Especially if you've say, had a stressfull week or something's really been irritating you. Just holding the crystal under running water will cleanse it. The thing with the full moon is it not only cleanses, it recharges crystals as well.
Just a thought here while I remember...
If you get hold of a piece of Selenite or Calcite, don't clense these ones with water - they'll dissolve. There are other crystals like these that don't like water, so the full moon is the best thing for them. Mind you Selenite is itsself a cleansing crystal, so you don't have to worry too much about cleansing it.
Blessings,
James
James,
I pretty much thought so of what you were going to say to re-energize the crystals.
I appreciate your time and help. Btw: I read previous posts in this thread you said that you performed crystal healing, what other parts of crystals do you help people with?
Tvos
Hi Tvos,
I'm sorry, I must be having one of those "its Monday morning and I can't get my brain into gear" things, but I don't quite understand your question.
Is the question along the lines of what other things do I use crystals for to help people?
:?:
James.
James,
Yes - how do you go about healing people with crystals? Also, what other methods besides healing do you use with crystals. Ex: Astral Projection, Clairvoyance etc..etc.
Tvos
James,
I placed my crystal necklace out the last 3 days. There was a lot of overcast and didn't get enough moonlight. Will that still effect the quality of the purification of the crystal? Should I leave the crystal out when the moonlight is not blocked by clouds?
Please advise..
Tvos
QuoteMan, none of this is needed and soon you'll be worried that your crystal isn't charged enough and so you'll fret about this possibility while you are trying to Obe or phase and these thoughts will screw you up. All this is mumbo jumbo old school mystical junk. Don't get caught up in all this superstition or you'll just create limiting beliefs.
I wrote this in response to your first post on this thread, god I love being right!
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Han
Quote from: the voice of silenceJames,
I placed my crystal necklace out the last 3 days. There was a lot of overcast and didn't get enough moonlight. Will that still effect the quality of the purification of the crystal? Should I leave the crystal out when the moonlight is not blocked by clouds?
Please advise..
Tvos
Hi Tvos,
It's not the light of the full moon that does the work as much as its energies. Even on an overcast night, the job will be done.
:)
James.
Han,
This email thread was directed to James for the sake of education on the crystal purification process. Not just for me but for others to learn as well. Don't be so dour and be open to different possibilities.
Tvos
Quote from: the voice of silenceJames,
Yes - how do you go about healing people with crystals? Also, what other methods besides healing do you use with crystals. Ex: Astral Projection, Clairvoyance etc..etc.
Tvos
Sorry, missed this one...
Crystal healing - the more basic version - involves placing crystals relating to each chakra on each chakra (typically go by the colour of the crystal). Starting with the heart chakra, being the centre of the energy body, you use reiki energy as if you were doing a reiki healing, but apply that energy to the crystal over each chakra. The crystal will enhance and transmute the reiki energy to energise the chakra it's on. Using a combination of reiki, auric vision and clairvoyance you "clean out" and build up the aura around the chakra. The main aim is cleaning, clearing, unblocking and building up the entire energy body. A fully cleared and recharged energy body provides so many benefits to a person's overal health and emotional states.
Other than that, I use a crystal pendulum for dowsing & channeling, I have crystals around my home & workplace for clearing and protection, personal crystals for centering, improving my connection to spirit energies around me, and on a day to day basis when I feel the need, crystals to help keep my heart centre (in particular) protected and fed with positive energies, emotional & mental balance and grounding.
I do use them a lot. Moreso now that I've become more sensitive to the energies around me, and more aware of the subtle changes I sense with having different crystals around me.
Blessings,
James.
James,
I hope this is the last question in this thread..:) I really appreciate the expert advice you'd given me and for others to read. I can definitely tell that you are skilled with this and a great person.
When I wrote about the moonlight being blocked from overcast, I figured as much it wouldn't matter, but the cycle of recharging them would. Now, there was one day that I left the crystal outside completely in the sun and at night. Does this effect the balance of the crystal charging?
Tvos
No worries Tvos, I don't mind the questions at all. Keeps my brain from going stale. :)
The sun won't affect the energy balance.
There are a few schools of thought that say the sun is also beneficial to the crystals. I don't subscribe to this as a crystal's native habitat is below ground away from the sun. Sunlight won't adversely affect the energies of crystals, but for some crystals, especially Amethyst, it can bleach the colour from them over time.
The moon on the other hand affects our Earth in many ways. Why is a full moon so special? After all, isn't it just the time when the Earth is not between the sun and the moon? I can't really explain how it works, but like countless generations before me, I know that it does, and like millions of other people, I've felt its effects. I can only guess that it's part of the natural cycle of energies. Not surprisingly, women understand this energy cycle much better than men do.
Blessings,
James.
James,
Do you use crystals for projecting besides healing?
I've heard someone tell me in another thread or post that they
place their crystal in the freezer every day and wear it at night.
Something about energy and recharging.
Tvos
The freezer??
Unnatural environment - fabricated metals & plastic, EM radiation from the compressor. I can't see that doing any good for the crystal at all.
I've found a few crystals assist my meditation visions (what I call astral phasing), and help me to be more open to the spirit energies around me. Amethyst & Celestite especially have helped here.
Blessings,
James.
James,
How can you tell if a crystal has negative energy? What methods do you go by to test this? Besides, if one has unfortunately accidents, having a bad work week, etc..etc
Tvos
Incidentally, I have found that the typical crystal you get at rock shop vibrates electroniclly at frequenies in the range of hundreds of kilohertz. This is lower than the quartz crystals used in electronics, due to the much larger size of the crystal. These freqencies are way above human hearing by a factor of ten or twenty.
There may be several freqencies at which they respond, and each resonance will be narrowly defined such that it will vibrate only at exactly that freqency, which will be one of several frequencies each narrowly defined.
This information has probably no relevance to spiritual things. I just mentioned it in case anyone is curious. The vibrations we engineers talk about are not the vibrations OBers talk about. I dont know of any connection between the electronic properties of crystals and their imagined mystical properties.
Boris,
A thought came over me and I was wondering that north-south/east/west positioning or brain wave generator program have any effect on crystals and their frequency vibrations? would this cause problems for projecting?
tvos
James,
Lately, I've been only wearing my crystal with necklace in walking life, but during the night I've been removing it. For some reason, a month ago I was nailed hard with the vibes and was not a pleasant experience. I know that you've to deal with the bad vs. the good on anything in life.
As I've removed the necklace during the night, it seems that my experiences are unfolding and quality is getting better. The only thing that has changed was the direction I'm now sleeping in East-West.
Last three months, the crystal has been initialized and cleansed under the full moon light.
Any ideas?
Tvos
Runlola,
I don't think its over-doing it in this case. All I do is wear it around my neck 24/7 and every month cleanse in the full moon light. Nothing more too it. I just question the energy of east-west projecting and the crystal.
Tvos
I'm a skeptical person, but I find James amiable, and I always like his posts. I don't think crystals are entirely crazy. I don't know if they work like people think they do, but they can be helpful.
For instance, moving your awareness to above your eyes and noticing what happens. If you place a crystal there while you lie down, it helps to move your awareness having the crystal there. I guess you could have a dime there to the same effect, but who knows. No one has ever tried seeing the effect of crystals using a CAT scan or whatever, so I don't think there's anything for me to claim either way.
I will, however, say that once I put a crystal on my forehead while I meditated and a zit developed there that lasted an entire month. Never tried repeating the experiment, because I don't really look forward to seeing if the result repeats itself ...
Runlola,
So you are saying that wearing it around my neck might provide negative results? Why would they advertise it as a necklace then just keeping it around your bedside?
Tvos
Tvos,
I Agree with what Lola's said.
Use crystals as the needs arise, but don't look to them for constant support or enhancement. They balance and or amplify natural energies around you according to their makup, but once those energies have been balanced or enhanced, you should allow yourself to work with those energies unassisted in order to maintain your body's natural energy balance.
Otherwise what you can end up with is the same as taking headache tablets all the time. You'll end up immune to the effects. I've seen this happen a lot among people that treat crystal usage like a religion. The crystals end up becoming either a placebo or an addiction.
Blessings,
James.
James,
Great information on this and I understand where you are coming from.
My question is that if I wear this crystal on my necklace everyday, is that over doing it?
How do I know that I'm in balance and its time to take the crystal off.
Also, how far away should the crystal remain from contact?
Tvos
I have a small pewter dragon pendant that I wear every day. On it are swo small beads of Adventurine and two small beads of Hematite. I cleanse it as I do all the other crystals I have, but I have more or less allowed it to become part of me, so its effects are minimal. This is as opposed to other crystals that I wear or carry at specific times and for specific purposes. Intent plays a big part here.
How do you know when you're out of balance? If you trust your own feelings, you'll feel it. Instead of feeling calm positive energies, you'll start to feel a kind of harshness.
When you're not wearing the crystals, put them somewhere away from you where they can "relax" and recharge. keeping them in a box or a bag can help, letting them rest on a clear Quartz or Amethyst cluster can help them to recharge. There are no strict guidelines here. A lot of it is up to what you feel is effective or convenient.
Blessings,
James.
James,
I appreciate your help and in depth knowledge on this.
Thank You,
Tvos
James,
As of lately, I've noticed a difference limiting my wearing of the crystal necklace. Sometimes if I have the necklace on or off I can project. Do you have any format for how many days I should wear on/off? What about prayer, affirmations?
Tvos
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Do you have any format for how many days I should wear on/off? What about prayer, affirmations?
Hi Tvos,
There are no rules or guidelines here. Go with what you feel to be right, and trust that. As to prayers / affirmations, again, very much an individual thing. I'm a great believer in the power of affirmations. Use them however you see fit.
As to combining crystals and affirmations, you can write down an affirmation and place it under a clear Quartz point. This will amplify the intent of the words.
Blessings,
James.
James S,
When you're out of body are the crystals that you view from the astral to the physical glowing with energy, pulsating. Do you carry crystals with you into the astral on your experience?
Thought it might be interesting to see what takes place.
Tvos
Love to be able to tell you Tvos, but I don't do full body projections. During meditations I go into visions with are related to (or pretty much exactly the same as) phasing. Rarely have I ever had an astral body to work with.
When I do go off into visions, the crystals I have inthe physical are not with me in the astral. Their energies can have an effect on my experience, but that's about it.
Blessings,
James.
James,
Who's love and do you work with groups on-line, classes, or just primarly yourself?
Tvos
Love is figure of speach that relates to the kind of good feeling I'd get if I were able to answer all questions.
Twit! :razz:
I get together once a week at my friend's shop with a group of other people who are either starting to learn or wanting to improve on their meditations and psychic skills. We practice together so that we can learn from each other's input and help confirm or test each others experiences with Spirit.
:smile:
James.
James S,
What would you say was the most memorable experience in group or personal with what you do with the crystals?
Tvos
That's kind of a hard question to answer.
Crystals are tools. They enhance or alter the energies around me, but I don't really pay much attention to them while their doing it. Its like I don't pay attention to the phone while I'm talking to someone on it.
I guess my most memorable experiences of the effect of using crystals while in meditation was when I was holding a piece of Celestite. It has very gentle, but very strong energies, and I did feel it greatly enhanced my ability to be aware of much higher levels of energies.
:)
James.
James,
Did your consciousness shift to a higher level, were you in a trance meditative state?
Tvos
Hi I am mikron and I have has experience with crystals on many different levels and I can answer all your questions about etc....and you and I will both will be surprised the answers are all within the realm of discernment and not the ego etc..
Crystals first and for most only work within a person energy field and require a person have focused INTENT AND when someone is feeling good and positive the crystal will increase that energy !
But be careful because if someone is feeling down or depressed it will increase that energy!
so a person who is positive is good to work with crystal energy in healing and spiritual work !
can crystals enhance DREAMS OBE ETC... the answer to that question is not yes or no ,but rather it might be better to say its up to the person and the connection one makes with the crystal ! and the emotional energy ! Jump out of the box to understand the next statement !
one way to enhance these ideas and get a pyramid and place the crystal in the center or create an grid pattern of crystals in the room where you sleep in ! this process can increase energy in the room and thus help overall! so someone might go to bed and focus intent on the pyramid can help
sleeping with crystals in ones hand is for advanced study because as i said the connection with a crystal is the emotional focus and there are many energy systems within the body to take into consideration first!
How does someone know a crystal is for them !
go into a crystal metaphysical store and use discernment and intuition to pick one out ,close you eyes and open you third eye and see if the crystal sends you a visual or sometimes you might get a jolt of energy up you arm and connects with the heart chakra , this process is really simple because it can be as simple in one second close you eyes and you might see some colors flash in your imagination , then the crystal is for you its a very personal and subjective experience To Know your own truth!
can some one wear a crystal over an extended time and the energies get tough etc... well the answer is its up to the person and they should know about personal energy because of the ego ,it gets a little overboard ! knowing this world and energy in very intense , most times the crystal can and will up the energy even higher and maybe the person can not handle the increase in energy again Know thy self and be a master of Light !
when we speak of dreams and OBE we are talking about only one thing that is "Consciousness" it is the only focus that moves in this process ,to be conscious in a dream/obe or not there are many considerations !
mikron
Thanks for the good info here mikron. Your input and experiences are most welcome.
:)
Tvos,
It was a consciousness shift. I rarely ever trance meditate.
James.
James,
Think you could make this a permanent topic or sticky for others to read on. Much good information in this topic to share thatn having to search or re-create.
Thank You,
Tvos