Does anybody know the astral travel device invented by E.J. Gold?
Look here:
http://www.astraltravelagency.com/ap/
E.J. Gold wrote several books. This is his personal site:
http://www.brane-power.com
You tube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ejgoldguru?blend=24&ob=5
Never heard of it.
Buy it, try it out and let us know. :)
I might even be completely wrong, but I think that's all about it.
does it have a frequency that the energy body resonates with?
I have no idea how this would work maybe as a chakra stimulator?
It looks interesting and if I were rich I would buy on in a heart beat
somebody needs to test this out!
Chance
I would be wary of buying something like that from the website of some random guy I've never heard of before.
If he really had a reliable AP device all he would have to do would be give one to someone famous like robert bruce to try out. When it worked he could offer a cut to RB or whoever to endorse it and he'd be raking in the cash overnight. The fact he hasnt done that makes me suspicious.
People have been attempting to make such devices for some time.
A member of this forum built his own device once that seemed to be successful for him, I don't know if he still uses it or has developed the design more or anything.
I guess I'd be of the opinion that the only physical mechanism for travel is your mind.
E.J. Gold wrote several books.
This is one of them:
Parallel Worlds Explored
http://www.idhhb.com/parallelworldsexplored.html
I think this guy is just bulls***ing us,don't you thing?Went somewhere,where he had already invented it and most remarkably "took it back with him to the homeworld"? :lol:
Quote from: Simo on May 06, 2011, 16:58:15
I think this guy is just bulls***ing us,don't you thing?Went somewhere,where he had already invented it and most remarkably "took it back with him to the homeworld"? :lol:
This man is a Teacher in the Gurdjieffian tradition. He would deny that though (The Gurdjieffian part). He is a master of AP. He is very experienced in the exploration of various realms of Consciousness.
He is also completely jaded and views the majority of humanity with disdain. He sells total crap to innocent believers and laughs all the way to the bank. Just read the sales pitch. It is pure science fiction just dripping with sarcastic overtones.
I do recommend his books if you can get them at the library or second hand.
"The Human Biological Machine as a Transformational Apparatus" is very good.
Quote from: sercetu on May 05, 2011, 22:32:24
Does anybody know the astral travel device invented by E.J. Gold?
Look here:
http://www.astraltravelagency.com/ap/
E.J. Gold wrote several books. This is his personal site:
http://www.brane-power.com
You tube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ejgoldguru?blend=24&ob=5
R U kidding?
...thief
Aside from the fact that this is almost certainly a scam, it is promoting a no-work, first time success. That may sound intriguing and convincing to most, but it sounds downright wrong to me. From everything I've read, Astral Projection is a skill, and skills are meant to be developed, not achieved overnight. It takes away from the accomplishment when you don't put in the effort. Besides, it seems like the moment you don't have the device, one would be unable to project independently after having become so strongly dependent upon the device. I may be alone, but this sounds very wrong to me, be it 350 dollars or just one.
His story sounds just like the fiction television show "Fringe".. where Walter bishop looks into a parallel universe during the year 1985 and copies a cellphone and invents it here...
definitely a scam . . .
Why are these kind of things so expensive. Lucid dreaming masks are like 250 dollars, for what? Blinking LED lights, thats all they are, electronically simple.
Everything on that page seems overly expensive to me. bleh
Quote from: Eyyoshi on May 08, 2011, 18:19:30
Why are these kind of things so expensive. Lucid dreaming masks are like 250 dollars, for what? Blinking LED lights, thats all they are, electronically simple.
Everything on that page seems overly expensive to me. bleh
The value of any product is not the sum of it's parts but rather what the market will pay for the intended result. Example: a Coach purse is worth about $60 in leather and thread. The price tag reads nearly 10 times that amount, and people pay it gladly for the opportunity for others to see them with a $600 purse.
"Escaping reality" is a disgustingly profitable market. People pay thousands of dollars a month for drugs and alcohol. :( A blinking light soldered to a pair of sunglasses costs $5 to make, but the perceived promised result is priceless.
Quote from: Eyyoshi on May 08, 2011, 18:19:30
Why are these kind of things so expensive. Lucid dreaming masks are like 250 dollars, for what? Blinking LED lights, thats all they are, electronically simple.
Everything on that page seems overly expensive to me. bleh
Because the guy is trying to rip you off. Pay the $225 and when you ask for a refund you will never see your money again. This scam works first time every time!
I so have to get into the business of soldering together a few trash resistors and capacitors putting them into a cheap little bracelet, and selling it for $250. There must be thousands of electronics-illiterate people around who will make it into A REAL GOOD EARNER.
http://www.dreamlucid.com/tools/lucid-dreaming-amulet.html (http://www.dreamlucid.com/tools/lucid-dreaming-amulet.html)
This guy is priceless....
I have no doubts that these items *can* work, but it is not necessary to pay $250 for them. If you believe in something strongly enough, that's all it takes to make it effective for you. Anyone can make a lucid dreaming/astral projection amulet. Make it out of wood and toilet paper for all it matters. Just believing that it will work will power it well enough.
I remember when he made those amulets out watch quartz and a little copper wire and charged about $40.00 for them. They sold well so he tried Silver wire and fancier mounts for the quartz housing and charged $300.
If you read the sales pitch closely he comes right out and admits, "this device doesn't really do anything".
I am not kidding.
LOL! It's all bovine excrement! :lol:
I really want to know how many people took the roller coaster ride with his crappy devices 300$ is really expensive ticket for a roller coaster :D:D:D
Quote from: Simo on May 09, 2011, 13:35:00
I really want to know how many people took the roller coaster ride with his crappy devices 300$ is really expensive ticket for a roller coaster :D:D:D
The amazing thing is how effective the placebo effect can be.
They even get testimonials;
"oh wow! I really had an amazing Lucid dream the first night I slept with this thing on!"
or
"A week after I started wearing this Power Prosperity Amulet I got a phone call from my new boss telling me I just got my dream job!"
and so on....
I am always interested in technology that promotes and can assist with OBE / LDE.
However, one should not put faith in these devices as the end all be *all*. Stay away from such advertisements till you run through the basics of learning how to enter the trance state. There is no magic pill, just hard work, patience, time with trial and error. Quick gizmo's like these remind me of fast food OBE drive through.
If I were too purchase a device, I would want a 5 - 10 day money back guarantee.
Back in the day, I tried all sorts of methods, crystals, sleep positions,food you name it. It doesn't matter period.. If you want to project, you'll find a way.. Best advice I can offer is focus on writing everything down on a spreadsheet when you project - date, time, type of obe, when you went to sleep and immediately awakened from the OBE. This establishes a BIGGER picture and paints your progress with patterns. Seeing yourself at the best times to induce the OBE.
Stay away from such products that promote OBE - quick and easy, fast food drive through approach.
DW
Quote from: Summerlander on May 09, 2011, 12:54:15
LOL! It's all bovine excrement! :lol:
bohhhhh-viiiiiiine
sounds like a mantra.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fvJl7BhcO8