Phasing/AP from dreaming/sleeping state

[SiN]

Hmm... I was going to ask something similar to your question. Last night, I think I did project (or nearly fully project) out from one of my dreams.

I tried 3 times yesterday to have an AP, and with all 3 I felt that I nearly got out.... only thing was I felt trapped and shaky. And so far, only my right arm seems to be getting out.

Anyway, right before that last 3rd time, I had fallen asleep and upon waking up, I felt so drained and energy-wasted, I could barely walk to my room (I tried to AP in my parent's room, cause it felt safe there). I dunno, maybe using up too much energy (or stimulating it) isn't good for you?

After that last time trying, I went to sleep (around 3AM) and woke up in a dream-state semi-paralysed or, really numb. I felt and saw myself as I was leaving my body (though, not by my control). And this time, my whole upper body got out. Strange thing was that I felt terribly restricted, and saw my body sort of 'squished' or 'pushed together' as it was coming out. I panicked, thinking something was wrong, then woke up.

So far, I've found (for me) that when I attempt AP around 2AM and fail, that once I fall asleep, I end up 'half-projecting' through my dreams. This has only happened a few times this week. I'm going to keep trying, to see if this is not mere coincidence. I wonder if the time that we either attempt AP or fall asleep has anything to do with how successful our attempts at AP will be during our dreams?

Well, I hope I find out soon, cause sacrificing sleep really messes up with my biological clock!

Oh, and what time do you usually go to sleep? Or what times do you remember falling asleep around when you happened upon your lucid dreams?

[Psyman]

Hi What Tha Phak,

Since I have both read about this and experienced it, I say it is possible.  When I reflect on my own experience, it seems that the key is to stay calm when lucidity (or awareness that you are dreaming) approaches.  This may sound tough, and I am no master of it by any stretch of the imagination, but try to bring on the lucid awareness gradually, because any sudden shocks or excitement and *WHAM*, you wake up!  If you can keep it smooth and continuous, you should be able to prenetrate your awareness to the point/level/depth that corresponds with OBEs, if that's what you're trying to achieve.

Regards,

Psyman

[Albert]

Yes it does mess up bio clock, but it goes away after a day or two.

I've attempted WILD too many times with little success, have been able to get vibrations, hypnagogic sounds, and getting out of body by just forcing myself up while sleep paralysis held me. I ended up in a room similar to mine, couldn't find myself, so I'm guessing it was a LD just as I had expected.
Another LD I tried projecting out of dream body but nothing happened:)

wait, what's the difference between WILD and AP?

[What Tha Phak]

I've tried a few times (the times that I was aware that I was dreaming) to project or phase from this state, but still no luck, usually I wake up from knowledge that I was dreaming, or from my mom or something.

Does anytone think this is possible, has anyone ever done it?