Astral Projection Psychological Crutches

[Nick]

Hi yellowsubmarine,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse forums. [] There have been a number of threads on the topics of binaural cd's. The ones that have been posted on the most have been the Monroe Institute's Gateway cds. For a thorough discussion of that see the topic Gateway Wave 1 pointers by Frank in the Astral Consciousness forum.

If you use the search button at the top of the page, you'll be able to track down previous posts on other cds such as the Awakened Minds cd and also several binaural cds from a company called Brain Sync.

For my part, I talk about my experiences with these cds in the Astral Consciouness forum in a topic posted by Adrian entitled Phasing Methods, if you care to take a look. Bottom line, I don't view the binaural cd as a crutch unless we make it one. It helps as a nice assist to get to the mind-awake/body-asleep state on a lot of occassions. Sometimes, we get there on our own without the cd, but it can be a help other times.

There is a wealth of information that has been posted on these threads. Take a look at some of the prior posts when you get a chance. Meanwhile, I'll look forward to reading your posts.

Very best,

[jc84corvette]

Welcome to the Astral Pulse forums!

The use of maryijuana is clearly up to you for obe/ap. Try not using it one night and see how it goes.

[LA FORET MAUVE]

i tried hundred of times (ok i may exagerate a bit) to AP using Marijuana or Haschich without sucess...
But i wasn't aware of the phasing techniques...so maybe it could works with the phasing, but the "traditional" way to obe or ap doesn't suit in my opinion with the high. I say that it could go with the phasing because of the wonderful ability to provoke the closed eye imagery. It's for a long time i didn't used it though...and now i can obtain the imagery at will, so...hmm

[yellowsubmarine]

I sometimes feel that with certain 'crutches' I am able to get that much closer to APing. I don't know if what I am doing is right or not. There is a part of me that enjoys using these devices to reach specific goals, however the otherside says to do this naturally.

Such crutches for AP inducement (which have all got me closer but never quite there) include:

1. Hemi-Sync brain wave stimulators
2. Trance music such as Terry Riley or Steven Reich

lastly, the use of marijuana to ease my mind/ body down at times. I also find that by controling the 'high' I get from marijuana and directing it into meditative purposes, it not only gives the pot use a purpose but a sense of immediate direction as well. I still feel that is a crutch however.

Anyone else have these crutches when it comes to APing for beginers?