This has been tried on several occasion by tre member of this forum and other around the world.
The difficulty is that the astrla is subjective and thus it's very difficult to arrive at te same place in the astral/RTZ at the same time. Arriving at a meeting at, say Stonehenge, requires a person to at least 1) be able to project at will, 2) be able to locate and move to the meeting place, 3) have enough control over their thought to avoid creating reality fluctuations that would prevent them form seeing the other people.
The most difficult of those is being able to project at will, something that is akin to athe oly Grail around here.
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jouni
For most of us, its hard to go to a specific place every time we try. You might get a few to show up. I'd try it.
It would be better if this place is higher in astral, where there is no time, so we could go when we get out of body any time. Years later, we could go there and tell the group what we learned and we'd know it today.
Has you said jilola, this was tried before. Wich are the results? They found each other there?
You said too that no one can astral project at will. To a beginner like me it´s diffivult to understand certain things: i thought that with all the technics and with pratic you could astral project almmost at wiil. If not true, that means that many trys to "get out" may fail. Now i ask: at wich rate, wich is the percentage of sucess? And what means any way "project at will"?
Sorry about all the questions but i still have one more: what do mean by "have enough control over their thought to avoid creating reality fluctuations that would prevent them form seeing the other people.". Do you alter the reality around you while in the astral body? If so, it sound like if the astral projections it´s just a dream (when everybody says that it´s "very real" even more than own reality). Please explain me your point.
thanks
I don't recall which thread it was. Try searching for Stonehenge using the search link at the top of the screen.
Yes, most of us can't just decide to project. Usually most attempts fail and only give interesting experiences and sensations. Some can project regularly. The rate of success varies for each person so I can't give you any number.
"project at will"=="decide to project and succeed"
In the real-time-zone (RTZ) where the meetings are usually attempted the person's emotions, expectations and thoughts cause changes in the environment. For example you may look at a wall thinking you want to go to the other side and a door appears. Or end up in the place of meeting and think how empty it seems and never see the other people around. Perhaps one feels a little scared and finds himself being attacked by monsters.
Self-control is very important in projecting. And the lower the level the more important it apparently is.
Lol! There's great debate over whether dreams are just spontaneous and uncontrolled projections. Since lucid dreams are very similar to projections and are between conventional dreams and full blown projections it seems reasonable to assume they are the same only the level of consciousness varies.
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jouni
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As far as projecting at will ... of course. Anyone who's put enough effort into the OBE can do that. I knew someone who could sit down and project within 10 seconds.
I believe it is possible to project at will within seconds. My very first AP happened that way, though I had no idea what was happening at the time. Still the entire experience only took a few seconds for me to project. I think it is probably quite simple, but because of habit it requires a lot of practice to be able to do it. Unfortunately I do not currently have the time to practice near as much as I wish.
I have heard that many do not meet in the RTZ but create their own place on the astral. Then when they want to meet everyone thinks about that place to go there.
Greetings everyone,
Many people do indeed meet regularly in the Astral. There are for example many Astral temples where members of esoteric orders meet.
I believe it is much easier to meet in the Astral than the real-time zone. The RTZ requires OBE which has its own problems, and attempting to meet at known landmarks is notoriously difficult due to reality fluctuations and so on.
Arranging a precise time is not really necessary in the Astral because time-space does not exist.
This is the main purpose behind the proposed Astral locale in the Astral Consciousness forum - a place where everyone can meet and learn to meet at the same time.
With best regards,
Adrian.
I´m still being confuse with certain terms related to OBE´s or Astral Projections.
Adrian saids:
"I believe it is much easier to meet in the Astral than the real-time zone. The RTZ requires OBE which has its own problems, and attempting to meet at known landmarks is notoriously difficult due to reality fluctuations and so on."
Is that means that: meet in RTzone requires OBE and meet in the Astral does not? If so, i´m very confuse. Know i have 2 more questions:
1- What does it means to be in the astral, and to be in RTznoe? I thought that when you astral travel, you are just in the real world but only with another form (astral body)~.
2- If there are differences, that means that you must OBE in order to be in the RTzone. So, what do you must do to be in the Astral? Is there any diferent act or action?
Can you help me with that basic questions. Thank you!
I don´t have any idea if the people in this forum has tried what i´m gonna say. If astral is truth, and if it is possible to find other spirits when travelling, why don´t you join each other in the astral plane?! An astral meeting or reunion. Instead of sharing ideas only here, you could, at least once, try to meet each other in the astral plane. You could say an hour, the day and an astral place (or in the RTzone), and all the people that use this forum could try to appear in the meeting in the astral body.
I don´t know if you get my idea since it´s a little bit difficult for me to speak, or write, something in english.
What do you think about this? At leats it would possible to prove once more (or to the newcomers) that astral is very real and that amazing things can happen there.