Astral Vision? songs stuck in my head!

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orion22

hello! im new at this stuff, but i was wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice on a few things...
1) i always hear about "astral vision" or seeing with your eyes closed, but i cant seem to figure out how anyone does it.. if i try, i usually just open my physical eyes. how do you aquire astral vision?  :redface:

2) also, when trying to meditate i almost always have a song stuck way back in my mind, that i cant seem to make go away... any helpful hints? :sad:

3) i was wondering if theres any position people prefer most, that seems to work the best? i've tried only laying on my back, flat, but i can only try and OBE about two times a day before i totally run out of energy.  :sad:  

4) i'd like to know if anyone has a general idea how long it took them to do their first successfull OBE, and what method you used.

i'd love to hear anything you have to say, or any advice would be greatly appreciated! thanks so much!
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Synergy

1.) The times I had it... it just sort of happened on its own.  I did influence it once to make me see somewhere I wanted to, vice a random place.  I never see just my immediate surroundings... I actually think it's remote viewing happening spontaneously.... unless they are two different phenomena but RV is the closest thing I could find to explain it.  It usually happens after you have been asleep for awhile and then wake up.  With your eyes still closed try to focus on any shadows you see.  The images at first are colorless, and dark and shadowy, but if you focus on them you will start to pull them into focus and see the colors and then the whole scene and all the details right down to movement. As soon as I open my eyes, I lose it and cant get it back at all.

2.) I'm at a loss.... maybe play different music to meditate by. Listening to a cd will help get rid of the song you dont want to hear.

3.) On my back, north to south, with my head pointing north.  I dont know why this works more often but it does... (hmm electromagnetic?)

4.) My first successful OBE was spontaneous... and my 2nd, 3rd, 4th, actually about 6 that I know of for sure... until I tried to induce one by will.  So I had something to base if I was successful or not.  The first method I used was 'sleep onset suggestion' where you get into the hypnogogic state - deep trance... body asleep/mind awake or whatever you want to call it... and to the point where you can pinpoint exactly when sleep takes over.  Then as sleep is taking over you will yourself to have an OBE.  SInce its the last thing your waking mind remembers, it usually passes over to the subconscious and works.  


hmm hope that helps!
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