I have had many AP and OBE events in 2023 that were triggered by a specific life event. I have had some other activity over the years but nothing this consistent. Some of these are fairly elaborate, and are entered into by the indirect method. Something I find very interesting. I have these repeated astral vision events that wake me up at random times during the night. I awaken with energy surging through my body. It's hard to describe, other than to say it is not uncomfortable, and feels like I have plugged into "something" metaphysical. I am well versed in Chi and have some experience in energy work and these surges are at another level. If Chi energy as normally experienced is a 2 then these surges are an 11.
With these surges come an accompanying high frequency vibration, similarly not a harsh vibration and not unpleasant. There is no loud sounds when this occurs. The visions plus energy combined are extremely exhilarating and almost reminds me of the movie Lucy where she taps into "something" beyond the typical, the ordinary and the physical. It is really a challenge to explain such an incredible energy surging through the body.
When this first occurs I do a test to make sure my eyes are already closed. 100% of the time they are closed. As to what a I see, it can be random things in incredible detail. It can be one image or scene, or it can be a slide show of images. It can be an environmental scene, or an object such as a dining room table. Last night it was wicker baskets all strung together with nuts and fruit in them of which I could not identify. When it's scenery, I attempt to enter it by zooming in without studying it too closely (or things dissolve). By moving into it I hoped to trigger an OBE/AP. No luck on this. Of late I tried to roll out of my body as these visual events and energy occurs. I feel my body physically moving so I stop. It's a bit unsettling to be so awake and feel all this going on, but at this point I am used to it. Sometimes I see faces, or eyes staring at me, and occasionally a face that is a bit frightening (not human). At that point I just open my eyes and end the astral vision. I have also heard astral wind during martial arts Chi training, but that was long ago. No wind or noticeable sounds with these astral events.
What is amazing is that though it starts when sleeping, it continues when I am 100% awake (with eyes shut) so I am positive these are not dreams and not the hypnagogic state. I am absolutely certain these are real events. In comparison, when I have an AP or an OBE, I always go through a process/analysis of it relative to waking awareness, thought processes, all details, emotions, etc... This helps me determine what exactly occurred. With the former, I instantly know for certain what has just occurred.
These astral vision events almost feels like I am looking into a window of another realm. It is a fascinating occurrence, but I wish I knew more as to their meaning and purpose.
Is this a fairly common occurrence among those who have OBE and AP experiences? If you have any thoughts or comments, please post.
Sleep paralysis or vibrational state many odd sensations can happen here including feeling electrified, astral wind, hearing people speak, vivid imagery, feelings of momentum
My vibrations usually come with a loud pulsing sound that I instantly recognise every time I have it but find difficult to put into words on waking
You can totally enter into those visions that your witnessing I like to think of that state as a departure lounge
Sometime your not quite ready to take off though and seem to just spend time there
Next to the normal vibrations which came later, my first two OBEs were related to 'kundalini-like' energy surges. Back then the word and concept "Kundalini" wasn't even known to me. I only found out about it later and could compare it and found validation that the energy surge was maybe also related to this phenomenon.
Here is a more detailed account from my former blog (now discontinued) that was written 2018 and in its first form in 2011, the event however had already been in Nov 2009:
https://astral-blog.weebly.com/blog/first-induced-obe-with-kundalini-symptoms
8-)
Quote from: Volgerle on April 11, 2024, 06:17:27Next to the normal vibrations which came later, my first two OBEs were related to 'kundalini-like' energy surges. Back then the word and concept "Kundalini" wasn't even known to me. I only found out about it later and could compare it and found validation that the energy surge was maybe also related to this phenomenon.
Here is a more detailed account from my former blog (now discontinued) that was written 2018 and in its first form in 2011, the event however had already been in Nov 2009:
https://astral-blog.weebly.com/blog/first-induced-obe-with-kundalini-symptoms
8-)
I really enjoyed reading that experience volg thanks for sharing
Thank you for the responses.The link was interesting. Yes, they are not the typical vibrational state vibrations (violent, disruptive, loud etc...). I really never get the traditional vibration state sensations even when a projection event occurs. Instead they were smooth energy surges traveling up and down the spine/torso rapidly. It really does feel like you have been completely electrified by a positive warm flow of energy. Nothing alarming or scary about this at all, in fact quite the opposite. Once again, no loud noises, and I was not paralyzed. I have read much about Kundalini, but have never connected the two. After reading the link, it makes sense that it is at least Kundalini-like and hence a "similar" sensation. In a month this can occur as much as 2x per week or sometimes not at all. Either way, it is a fairly common occurrence for me now.
One very important thing, I am so sure these energy surges and visions are real, that it really brings credence to my belief that my AP and OBEs are real as well. They all re-emerged at the same time and are completely connected.
Quote from: Frostytraveler on April 11, 2024, 09:35:17One very important thing, I am so sure these energy surges and visions are real, that it really brings credence to my belief that my AP and OBEs are real as well. They all re-emerged at the same time and are completely connected.
Thank you, this is an important detail indeed. Your journey is blessed, and you are safeguarded in your explorations.
Kind regards from Houston, TX
I do wonder if an Electromyography (EMG) test (or some other test) if attached to one's body during such an energy event could measure such energy. The EMG measures/detects electrical activity in response to a nerve's stimulation of the muscle. Here there is no muscles stimulated or contracted with such surging energy, so not sure if this would be the right test as the energy is not associated with neurons-muscular relation. If all this is occurring in the pineal gland, it would be very difficult to measure. Likewise if purely in the metaphysical domain, would also be difficult if not impossible to measure. The science side of me would love to see this measured. I guess if one couldn't initiate this in a consistent manner it would be impractical to attempt to measure it, even if it could be measured. I do recall there were many attempts to measure Chi energy, and some results were somewhat revealing.
I have also been thinking about the locations of the surging energy, and after some thought, I believe it was a head to toe phenomenon (not just limited to the spine). Next time it occurs, I will take note.
With this happening on an "etheric level, I don't think there would be any noticeable changes at all. I have seen videos in the past done in "sleep disorder/study labs" where a person is full sleep paralysis, yet their physical body is not showing any signs of any disruption at all. When the subject awakens, they tell how they felt their body physically being bounced and vibrated violently all over the place.
Now I so know that there is a measurable change in the brain activity around pineal gland and even the visual cortex while a person is meditation. Dr. Deepak Chopra was the subject of an experiment like this for the show "Ancient Aliens" in the past.
I had an astral vision event last night. Same thing, woke up from sleep with my body being thoroughly engulfed in a long energy surge. I remembered my post while it was occurring and I said to myself "pay careful attention to the energy's location", which I did. It was head to toe, arms, legs, torso, head, everything. So it doesn't appear to be the isolated location of traditional Kundalini spine energy, but perhaps feels similar. So incredible to be this aware and be thinking in great detail of questions I need answered while the event occurred in real time. Not only did this feel like full waking awareness, but felt one step further, it felt as if I was fully awake with eyes shut once again.
What I saw this time I have seen on two other occasions. Black field of view with a bright white lit disc shape twinkling/gleaming in the blackness. It was of a circular flat shape in the distance, not unlike looking at a full moon. The lit disc was folding onto itself inward then went back to its full size, then folded once again. The process repeated over and over. The disc slowly grew closer and got larger. This lasted what felt like 25 to 30 seconds. Dare I say it looked like a portal. I focused on it without honing in too much as I feared it would end if I did so. I drew myself closer to it, but couldn't help but study it. Then the astral vision dissolved. Such an interesting phenomenon. I couldn't sleep for the rest of the night. Perhaps when this occurs next, I will imagine being elsewhere at a distant location to see if it triggers a full astral projection.
Welcome to the show, Frostytraveler!
Kundalini, just to say is WHOLE BODY and what you are experiencing, by your description is just this.
Yes, I, too, have journeyed through this process ( beginning in 2009 ). I understand it is not the usual "vibrations", sleep paralysis or shifting phenomena. Though all of this is included right there inside of it. It, itself is MORE. And it allows one to make fully conscious shifts into and out of Earth space ( into and out of the body ). What you have termed 'astral visions' are an aspect of this and you will learn how to use them to venture further. I am here if you ever wish to talk. I write and speak on the subject extensively. This was written long ago, but it accurately relays, at least in brief, my experience.
Activated to Awaken: A Kundalini Top Down Awakening (https://consciousnessexploration.com/2013/08/28/activated-to-awaken-a-kundalini-top-down-awakening/)
Thanks for the link! Looking forward to reading it. Yes, it appears like a "show" in the middle of the night, of which I am energized and instantly awakened. Interesting that this could be Kundalini energy. I have done lots of previous reading on Kundalini, but never came across the "top down version". Seems like this is a distinct possibility. You are correct, it feels nothing like the vibration stage.
I just read your link and your experience. Still absorbing all that you discussed. Some of it definitely rings true with me. The energy vortex you mention, perhaps under a different context, seems to be a very good description of what I saw above.
I have been reading much regarding Kundalini energy/life force energy and its "awakening" over the past year, but this video I just came across is one of the best explanations of it. The video is by Teal Swan and I linked it below. The video resonates with me on so many levels. It also explains why this energy's release with me hasn't been a difficult process. Difficulties arise when the Kundalini energy is triggered all at once in one that is not ready for it in many respects. Yes, "a top down" release appears to be a more gentle process, but there is more to it than that which Teal explains. She talks about lowering/eliminating "resistance" to release the Kundalini energy that is always within us. If done properly then the associated Kundalini "syndrome" symptoms are minimal or absent altogether, which appears to be in my case. Asking the big questions of who we are, what are we here for and being an authentic person really gets the process going. She says "that what we are in the world today keeps us the safest". We become mere "copies" of other people. Sheep if you will, desensitized and a follower of the masses. This has never been me. In doing so we never realize who we are, and this prevents us from being authentic. Being authentic and its accompanying self awareness is a major trigger for the release of this energy and progress in the ascension process. This all rings very true to me.
Coincidentally, I discuss many of the topics discussed in the video in a detailed post I have been working on during the past week. The post describes an incredible metaphysical experience I had many months ago, and discusses some of these very topics surrounding and predating the occurrence. The word "authentic" along with other topics discussed in her video are in my post. As such, not only am I more convinced than ever that the energy I am experiencing is Kundalini energy, but she affirms other aspects of my spiritual ascension process as well.
Dolores Cannon states that one of the main things we learn to do in our physical existence is manipulate our energy. Isn't that exactly what's going on during these astral vision events? Many things we do manipulate and develop our energy, but when these events occur it feels like the pinnacle of all the work I have done. It's that powerful and exhilarating.
https://youtu.be/SU25SMyIo-k?si=--8gidHhOzzbYi92
I finally had time to listen to the video. I will be honest, I struggled and could only listen to just past the halfway mark. If you got something from Teal's relay this is good. We always receive what we need. But one could certainly have misunderstandings based on what she has and has not said. I come to what I have from a spiritual lineage, my disciplines began early, roughly at 12 years of age. I was never practicing to invoke the Kundalini, I was more simply seeking the self. This said, I had many disciplines. Atma vichara ( self enquiry ), meditation/Raja yoga ( the eight-fold path ), brahmacarya, savasana, tratak, pranayama, shravana, satsang and more. I came to a point of shifting from student to teacher in my late 30s, focusing my teaching into pranayama ( the breath ) and satsang. I was a decade into my years of teaching when I had my Awakening experience. It was my 44th year in this body.
I find it to be, minimally, a mincing of words to say the Kundalini is not dormant but rather being resisted, and maximally, in many respects, to be inaccurate when considering solely the personality we know ourselves as today, rather than our entire soul history. What is called 'Chi' ( life force energy ) and 'Kundalini' ( the Innate Intelligent-Energy of Nature Itself ) although of the same wellspring can, and are, I feel, understood more broadly when distinguished from one another. Anyone can experience a release of 'Chi', and the experience of this is quite exhilarating if not extraordinary, but it is not Kundalini. Chi can come through it bits and spurts, and be encouraged to, even, through disciplines. Kundalini is another matter altogether. Its mind is Its own. And I would never be able to accurately say it could be resisted by a personality in a body. It is like saying a drop of water can extinguish a forest fire. Were we to resist It would simply move us to dust. When this phenomenon activates, by whatever means ( certainly not our own ) there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. It tears through the mind-energy-body complex as IT would, literally reconstructing it.
There are various degrees of awareness of this process as it is occurring. Most choose to be consciously aware of only what is at a bare minimum necessary, patterning their attention to make it so. Others choose to more closely observe the process. The more one consciously observes, the more aware they are OF and through it. Not unlike going in for surgery without the anesthesia. You will be quite aware of the pain the body itself is experiencing. It is not something one meek at heart would ever choose. I did choose it. I could not stop myself from looking in on what was happening. This took me into a number of challenging experiences. Experiences, I would guess, 99.5% of people would not be capable of navigating in a conscious state. I cannot explain why I have been so determined to. Although I am someone who might always say 'the more data the better', and this could have something to do with it. All this said, I did reach a tolerance point at the 4 year mark of daily experience and investigation, both in and out of Earth space.
No-one is ever really 'ready' for something like Kundalini. A person can help make themself ready ( through spiritual disciplines ) to the degree they can, but what It is, is so unfathomable. And how can one rightly prepare for what there is no ability to fathom? I have regularly been in the mind blown state since 2009. When the Kundalini, for whatever reason WOKE me.
Not everyone survives this process. It is not something to take lightly.
It is a point at which there is no going back.
A do or die moment in time.
Many of the points you make appear to be the majority school of thought. Yes, Teal's opinion on Kundalini energy is a bit different than what many state. I thinks there are some points made that have universal application. Living authentically and not resisting this energy (or any energy) makes sense to me. I understand that with some awakenings, and depending on what the catalyst used, that Kundalini can be suddenly awakened and fully released too abruptly. For some, this can make the symptoms far worse. Resisting an abrupt and full Kundalini awakening is likely impossible, while resisting sufficiently enough to keep this energy dormant by a lifetime of no spiritual development seems plausible.
Perhaps I am subconsciously concerned that there will be a rough patch ahead if this energy gets even stronger. I am hoping the gradual release of this energy and that laying the spiritual groundwork will make the transition easier, as Teal states.
In my earlier post I mentioned that of Chi energy is a 2, then "this" energy is an 11. I do not believe that Kundalini energy and Chi energy are the exact same thing. At minimum they are very different in scope and in intensity. At maximum, they are completely different energies.
So it appears that from your post even a top down Kundalini energy awakening could still be a rough ride. Regardless, even with differing opinions, all is helpful to me and I assimilate bits and pieces that ring true with me. Thanks for your response.
A new daytime occurrence is starting. Yesterday and today I have dozed off each day during early morning between 7:00 am and 9:00 am. The dozing was just for 5 to 10 minutes, Yesterday I awoke with a long energy surge. There was no astral vision with it. This morning after a 10 minutes doze, I had the same 30 to 45 second energy surge, but this time there was a visual with eyes closed. A sphere appeared that looked like the sun, but not nearly as bright. It was purple in color with purple rays emanating from it. The object resembled what the sun looks like when viewed with a powerful telescope where the solar flares leave the sun and disappear. Now the third eye chakra is purple with the crown chakra being lavender. Could this be related in any way? Is it possible to visualize/see the third eye chakra?
QuoteMany of the points you make appear to be the majority school of thought. Yes, Teal's opinion on Kundalini energy is a bit different than what many state. I thinks there are some points made that have universal application. Living authentically and not resisting this energy (or any energy) makes sense to me. I understand that with some awakenings, and depending on what the catalyst used, that Kundalini can be suddenly awakened and fully released too abruptly. For some, this can make the symptoms far worse. Resisting an abrupt and full Kundalini awakening is likely impossible, while resisting sufficiently enough to keep this energy dormant by a lifetime of no spiritual development seems plausible.
Perhaps I am subconsciously concerned that there will be a rough patch ahead if this energy gets even stronger. I am hoping the gradual release of this energy and that laying the spiritual groundwork will make the transition easier, as Teal states.
In my earlier post I mentioned that of Chi energy is a 2, then "this" energy is an 11. I do not believe that Kundalini energy and Chi energy are the exact same thing. At minimum they are very different in scope and in intensity. At maximum, they are completely different energies.
So it appears that from your post even a top down Kundalini energy awakening could still be a rough ride. Regardless, even with differing opinions, all is helpful to me and I assimilate bits and pieces that ring true with me. Thanks for your response.
Mm.. I will concur, the top-down process is an all-at-once process, rather than the more linearly experienced ride. The experiencer comes in on it as That which does strikes the crown and synchronously the whole being, we could say all chakras at once. All lesser control is surrendered at once to the Greater. This said, a person does still get to choose what plays out in their knowing, in their
conscious state of attention. One could, if they wished, choose for absolutely none of it to. And for it all to play out, as it were, behind the scenes. This, I feel, would be a grave loss, though, and the opportunity to step into pitfalls quite great. This opportunity exists on the aware end of the equation as well. For you enter new territory, galactic space, and are starting at ground zero in terms of your understanding of other species and races. False matrices can be created with fear and what you "think" you have come to know. Contact is not an effortless or easy part of the experience of a top-down awakener. In fact it is easy to be taken out of the game right here. Which is why, or one of the reasons why MOST Earth human consciousness will traverse the base to crown, linear process of gradually opening themselves to the awareness of all this -rather than hit the ground running with it at the very first, at the
same time as the system is still being cleared. A certain skill set is required. I understand the concern that may naturally arise with regard to Kundalini, but know one's best bet once this Process has indeed begun, is to throw it with immediacy into the Fire. Trust in yourself and in your Inner being from day one and hold to this focus with all your might ( let nothing distract you from it ). It will take you further than any other possible choice.
@omcasey "Trust in yourself and in your Inner being from day one and hold to this focus with all your might ( let nothing distract you from it ). It will take you further than any other possible choice."
I have no doubt I will have no problem trusting my inner being and maintaining my focus. Thanks for your advice.
The energy occurred several times today and is lasting longer and longer. The last one lasted several minutes intensely and over an hour mildly. The energy is not unpleasant, but I am starting to get headaches.
I am pleased to hear this, ( I can only call you ) Frostytraveler.
The energy surges and sensations experienced during the day I always recall as being very pleasant as well. Although what I experienced fundamentally by day was a constant underlying vibration. My whole body vibrated as though every cell in my body was in a lovely state of excitation. It felt like "my engine was running", to give a somewhat similar vehicular analogy, rather than the engine being turned off. If I touched a part of my body with another part of my body, for instance my fingertips to the opposite hand it felt as though one vibration had touched another. I was quite literally experiencing myself AS vibration, at all times during the day and then at night another set of experiences would come on me. The day vibration, in this heightened state lasted a whole year, possibly two. My central nervous system, from all that was happening was in shock. I feel this lovely day vibration was to assist with this. Also I could be downed, literally downed at any moment by the vibration, which had a transfer value experienced as tones coming perceptually from the center of the head. It could feel as though the ground was being removed from below my feet. All kinds of fun stuff, lol. It
was fun for me in the greatest aspect. Something entirely new was happening.
Symptoms will continue to appear, and get worse if you do not find the avenue of expression for the energy. I made video logs twice weekly for years and years to help with some of this. I had opened a forum board the year prior and was mentoring others who were beginning to go out of body, and others moving through K processes. The website went up and the stage was further set for when the crystal contact work began. Which is now, and since 2017 another avenue of expression for the energy. There is always more coming. There may also, just to say, be awkward ways in which the energy wishes to express. Always say yes and run with it the best you can. It will generally feel really good to do so.
WATER is something you may find that helps you, soaking in water, turning on a hose and walking back and forth across the stream, if you live near the beach spending time down by water, even just walking - etc.. You will discover, if there are difficulties ( such as headaches ) what the resolution to them are. Being a brahmacarin ( a monastic, a celibate ) I had difficulty with the heightened sensations at the pelvic floor. A tantrik could have easily, physically expressed this energy but for me it took genius and creativity, lol. Whatever difficulty comes from you, you will find a way to resolve it. Because you must. The body can be taken down, otherwise. So you will. You just will.
This is one of my logs from 2010 -a mere year into my Experience.
My apologies, but youtube is putting old videos like this down to 240p. I may at some point take clips from some of the more helpful videos and re-upload them as a compilation on my new youtube channel.
begin @ 1:30
I watched the video. Thank you. It appears you went through a lot with the Kundalini awakening, as most do. I don't think what I am experiences is quite the same, but I realize that energy can effect everybody differently. Maybe too early to know for certain. The difficult symptoms aren't there, other than an occasional headache. It is definitely an evolving energy beyond that which I have experienced, as it is present much more often and lingers on long after what I have experienced with previous energy surges. I will keep a close eye on just how this evolves.
Yes, I still am ( going through a lot with the K ), it gets better and easier as we become more experienced with it but there is always something more. In my case, the root chakra has not yet fully cleared. Almost, soo close, literally on the cusp but still not 100%. And I am still completing with a myalgia at the shoulders/neck/back of the head. I am meant to vocal channel, to accompany the visuals (https://www.patreon.com/collection/19830?view=expanded) I bring through ( to our world ) to help prepare the human central nervous system for contact, ET contact. It is not effortless as our Service(s) come online. Fun!, incredibly fun but not effortless. Each of us patterns our attention to experience things in the way that is most comfortable for us. This is very true. And then, sometimes, there is an experience that comes through that we just can't take our focus off, we bore into it, and bore into it. Pushing ourselves further than we have ever gone before. Our overall experience can be a waxing and waning between these. My first four ( 4 ) years of the K were spent in more awe than anything else. The clearing of the body was not entirely pleasant, and some of it quite painful, but even this has been down at perhaps 5% relative to my awe, mostly at phenomena that occur within the conscious shift. It is the years following these four that things began to get hard. Through these years I had to more fully process ( through the body ) all I had come to experience. Which was substantial to say the least. I had been taken out regularly, near nightly for such an extended time. In the same way, you will agree to what YOU will in the experience you are now beginning to move through. You will make of it what YOU will. Yes, this is true of us all. Enjoy the easy times, and the hard times at least equally as well. It can be the torque between the two that shows us our real joy. I look forward to following your journey.
I am very much looking forward to the journey!
Interesting that the medical/scientific arena is starting to show interest in Kundalini Energy/awakening. Also says more studies are needed.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1550830720302238
Quote from: Frostytraveler on April 26, 2024, 14:49:14A new daytime occurrence is starting. Yesterday and today I have dozed off each day during early morning between 7:00 am and 9:00 am. The dozing was just for 5 to 10 minutes, Yesterday I awoke with a long energy surge. There was no astral vision with it. This morning after a 10 minutes doze, I had the same 30 to 45 second energy surge, but this time there was a visual with eyes closed. A sphere appeared that looked like the sun, but not nearly as bright. It was purple in color with purple rays emanating from it. The object resembled what the sun looks like when viewed with a powerful telescope where the solar flares leave the sun and disappear. Now the third eye chakra is purple with the crown chakra being lavender. Could this be related in any way? Is it possible to visualize/see the third eye chakra?
I just came across this thread. Interesting as the thread starter speaks of the violet flame (as described in my post). Hmm.... seems a bit similar to what I experienced.
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-spiritual-evolution!/the-violet-flame/msg302078/#msg302078
A bit of an update as I am way behind on posting experiences, but have resumed. Things had gradually slowed down for a couple of months, but have started picking up many weeks ago.
I was in my media room recently, for this meditation reclined in a chair. The meditation's format was one walks up a stairway leading to the "heavens". I opened a door, closed it, walked down a natural wilderness path that is beautiful. It leads to a river and a bench that I sit at. Here one hopes to see deceased soul, a spirit guide, your guardian angel etc. Sometimes I see a flash of a visual, or here an auditory sound, while other times I just get a feeling of a presence.
In the middle of the meditation something interrupted my walk down the path and I went into a light trance. Suddenly I was standing up in front of the seat I was just meditating in. I was curiously fumbling around with all my remote controls. Curiously I did it with no precision (which is the opposite of the real world). I said to myself, "why am I fumbling around with my remotes?" Things are a tad detached and dreamy with gray tones of color. I have waking awareness, but am acting in a manner I normally wouldn't. I looked around for a bit, then zipped back into my body. I then continued walking down the wilderness path.
Now I resumed my meditation, but immediately began asking myself "was I just out of body"? Almost immediately I felt the blissful high vibrational energy traveling up and down my body. Then came a long vision of light language objects, colors and patterns seen with my third eye. I just observed and enjoyed the show. This time the patterns were morphing and changing (as opposed to being a static slide show of fixed images). This lasted about a minute or so. When this was occurring I had full waking awareness and simultaneously concluded "Yup, I was just out of body and the third eye vision and energy that occurred a minute after my OBE was evidence of such".
I then reached the bench to see a particular soul that had passed. I didn't see anyone but I felt the presence and energy around me of that particular soul. It was very comforting, beautiful and a serene energy/presence. I opened my physical eyes and I was a bit emotional. It was a very moving encounter.
Of note, this was the second time I got OOB with the direct approach. Both "direct" projections were in the RTZ. The vast majority of my projections are done by the indirect method which can be OOB in the RTZ or APs.
I thought 30 minutes had passed, but curiously 1.5 hours had passed so a bit of a time distortion. Interesting to have multiple (3) metaphysical experiences in what was thought to be a very close time proximity.
The energy I am experiencing directly correlates to getting OOB and other metaphysical activity. For me energy is an important catalyst. I have had a breakthrough of late, where I can produce this energy with a 75% success rate. I will save this for another post.
Dear Frostytraveler,
Thank you for sharing your extremely interesting experience! I'm very curious to know as I seem to have a very similar "projection pattern" as you. Notably, the blissful vibrations as a sign for metaphysical activity; usually indirect leading to OBE in RTZ or AP, or less often direct. I'm curious about your breakthrough. I had a breakthrough recently myself so I'm keen to know if we are going along the se energy path so to say :-)
Things are progressing rapidly now. The motion rundown at night, just before bed, has triggered blissful energy surges and hypnogogic imagery with remarkable precision and a very high success rate. So much so, that the correlation between the motion and the metaphysical activity is irrefutable. I learn that you must find the motion event that resonates with your soul, your life your past. Any random motion activity did not work for me. Thankfully I was given this "suggestion" by a recurring vivid projection of this particular activity. This was a very important piece of the puzzle.
A new development occurs. Just being in the "setting" of the rundown motion activity is triggering activity, not just the motion itself. Live it, feel it, hear it, see it, you are there. It's not that you recreate that you are there, make yourself there in every sense of the word. The trance state begins almost immediately. I am suddenly engulfed in blissful energy. I not only feel it, but a I see a representation of it, floating in front of me in the blackness. It looks like a galaxy of swirling energy (see pic). I can almost touch it. Is it a visual of my energy or a location that I am seeing? My intuition in the moment points to energy, but as I think back not completely sure.
Then suddenly "click out" and phase. In a millisecond I go from a snowy environment to a beautiful tropical beach. My waking awareness is high, as I begin my observations. Looks like the movie Valerian's beach scene. Hyper realistic colors and detail. The lighting is unusual and is a giveaway that I am not "here" any longer. Beautiful people are on the beach. I am lying next to them, observing. They are peaceful and content souls. Not a smart phone anywhere, no gossip, no negativity, no worry about the past or future, just people living in a beautiful place in the moment. Very different than the world we live in.
A beautiful woman approaches me, and in an instant (once again) I was aware I knew her forever, but lacked the details of this "knowing". I am allowed to know partially, but not fully of how deep this relationship goes. So content here, such unconditional love, I click back and am fully awake almost immediately, with no grogginess. This is another sign for me that I just projected. I was not thrilled to be back, but extremely grateful for the experience.
Projecting "at will" draws closer. Such control is so alluring. Nothing wrong with random intermittent events, which have occurred all my life, but to trigger such events with precision, fascinates and excites me.
Galaxy pic:
https://images.app.goo.gl/xNTxncQSbkkP4Hnf8
Valerian Beach Scene
https://youtu.be/W9Z1Mr-1bLE?si=qcbuRqSsaCQEMN2U
Woke up many times last night with a series of energy surges with no initiation of activity at all, three or four times. I was very tired so I opened my eyes each time and it ended within a few minutes then went back to sleep. It felt as if my energy body wanted out, as I was "poked" to leave so many times. Remarkable stuff, it's something one can not get used to. As I always, I welcome it, just wish I was more rested.
Awesome progress, FrostyTraveler! I'm learning so much from your energy approaches. I'm new to this whole question of energy manipulation, so to speak, and my knowledge is limited, but I've decided to dive deeper this year, since I've experienced many of the things described here. I'm reading Robert Bruce's book "New Energy Ways" which was recommended here. If you have any book recommendations, feel free to share!
Interestingly, I had a similar experience recently. I gained lucidity in a dream and felt a strong wave of energy throughout my body while lying in bed (not physically awake, but conscious non-physically). It was like passing through a tunnel of rings and being submerged in the ocean, feeling the surface waves rocking my body in an aquatic sway. I felt ecstatic, that orgasmic sensation you've described, and sensed my etheric body being nourished somehow. The energy waves started rolling me around like sand under water, carried by the wave movement, until I was completely pushed out of my physical body and fell beside the bed. Like you, I felt too tired to take action, needing further regeneration, and enjoyed this "energy massage" until I lost awareness. Throughout this, I was in the Void since everything was all black. It was incredible, one of the few times I've experienced something like this, and I suspect it happens frequently, but I just don't remember.
Thanks for sharing! Learning about our internal energy system and how it works seems crucial on this journey. Practicing AP triggers many spontaneous extraordinary events.
Keep it up! :-)
Thank you! Glad I'm being helpful. 🙂 Yes, I have read RB's New Energy. I also got the updated digital format RB's Treatise On Astral Projection. I found that even better. It's very inexpensive and worth a look as well at some point. I have not finished it though. I find reading is great and the knowledge gained and associated practice also very beneficial. But I also like the very proactive approach of either Tai Chi or Qigong. The Qigong I do is Wuji Gong developed by Grandmaster Fu Wei Zheng (Emei Qigong). If you can find the DVD it's worth picking up. It helps the physical body but also focuses on the connection to spirit. William Buhlman strongly recommended that anyone interested in OBE or AP should be practicing Qigong [or other energy arts i.e Tai Chi]. Energy work appears to fuel my metaphysics activity, but there are lots of pieces to the puzzle. For me, energy development/work appears to help my ability to trigger activity either indirectly, but most recently directly with phasing. I have really been working on gaining control and precision of metaphysical events. I am not where I want to be yet, but I believe someday I may get there.
As far as the tunnel of light/rings go... that was one of my first metaphysical experiences over 30 years ago. It was similar to what you describe, intermittent whit lit rings passing by me at incredible speed, with a tunnel that was a lit light blue, and white light with a cloud effect. I knew I was traveling far, but ended things when I got nervous I would get lost and snapped back into my body. The feeling experienced was even more overwhelming than the visuals. It felt quite different to me than my energy experiences. It was the most serene, warm, peaceful feeling with pure unconditional love. Why a path through this beautiful tunnel invoked such feelings I can only imagine. I have my theories. Note though, this tunnel event has not been reproducible, as it only happened once.
I was in the Void once due to a medical procedure/medication reaction, which may have been my first metaphysical experience. To me it was like a combination of floating in the quiet blackness of space, and being supported by water. Immensely peaceful, the state of no mind, no worries or concerns, but very different than the tunnel experience (for me). The tunnel experience soon followed, and it felt like being held by the hands of God, taking me to an unknown destination. For me that experience was the send off of all metaphysical experiences to follow over my lifetime.
I fell asleep quickly last night. One of the challenges I face is falling asleep too quickly before I have gotten into the scenery or activity of the rundown. If the trance state is not achieved, and I just fall asleep (traditionally) then I simply fall asleep with no activity produced. This happened last night as well.
So this morning, I decided to do a little experiment and do the scenery/motion rundown around 7:00 am vs falling asleep to it at night in trance. What I got is lots of energy and a visual that kept repeating. The visual was not a typical hypnagogic visual, it was different. The energy lasted a good 10 - 15 minutes after I stopped the rundown. The energy was present over my entire body. Once it started dissipating, I noticed the torso was first to go, then the head region, while the hands and feet held onto the energy the longest. Interesting... So doing this in the morning brought activity, just not a projection. Doing this at night while falling asleep continues to be an important part to trigger a projection. Perhaps I need to go to bed more consistently earlier.
Thank you so much, FrostyTraveler, for your advice! I've always wanted to learn a discipline that encompasses physical, energetic, and spiritual aspects simultaneously. In the Chinatown of my country, the Chinese Cultural Association offers Tai Chi, Chi Kung, and Traditional Chinese Medicine classes for just $20/month. It'd be amazing to attend. Sometimes, it's beneficial to learn these practices in person to correct postures.
However, I'd like to practice at home first, so I'll search for DVDs :-)
My mom's ex-partner, a Kung Fu teacher, would share stories about the body's energy points, chakras, and Chinese medicine when I was a child. He'd also discuss non-physical experiences. Although I was introverted and never shared my own experiences or interests with my family, I took notes of everything he said lol.
I didn't see myself learning Kung Fu, but rather a more passive discipline like the ones mentioned.
Your description of the ringed tunnel was beautiful! In my case, I didn't see anything; it was just a sensation. I genuinely felt my energy regenerating and healing.
Thank you again, and I know you'll achieve your goals soon! Remember, pure heart intention opens doors more than specific techniques.
Keep us updated on your progress, please!
"Pure heart intentions opens doors"... exactly Tak! I always thought that. That is a foundational prerequisite IMHO to progressing spiritually. Sincerity to ourselves and others (our heart), asking big and meaningful questions, as well as a sincere drive to learn what's beyond the veil, is all of vital importance. All help increase our vibration and ascension process. Nothing will stop this process faster than low vibrational thoughts, actions and living. Chronically interacting with low vibrational beings and energy vampires in this 3d realm is also very damaging to our spiritual progress. It is very important that this be limited by setting boundaries. After all of the above is attained (and this does not happen overnight, as it can take years or even decades) does energy use and technique come into play. For me, technique and manipulating the energy that I harbored most of my life was the last piece of the puzzle. That and collaborating with the wonderful members here. 🙂
Just to say I love reading all your experiences, progresses and insights. What a great community <3
Quote from: Frostytraveler on September 24, 2024, 05:05:32Chronically interacting with low vibrational beings and energy vampires in this 3d realm is also very damaging to our spiritual progress. It is very important that this be limited by setting boundaries.
I completely agree! But things get tough when those 3D 'vampires' and negative beings are your own family. I feel drained when I'm around my family. It's hard to balance the need for distance without feeling guilty or being labeled as abandoning them. But being close drives me crazy. Self-care is crucial.
My family is vastly different from me; they're ultra-materialistic, and I've never shared my spiritual views with them. They'd think I'm crazy or be frightened. Yet, I don't feel negative people in my life hold me back. Instead, they help me develop maximum energy transformation and transmutation capacity, and better understand duality (It's what Earth is about, I guess).
Thanks to our disagreements and fights, I gained the courage to travel alone for nearly five years with a backpack, sleep alone in mountains, and do things I wouldn't have done if I got along with them. I forgive them all, knowing they're part of my growth. That negativity helped me grow immensely. Even negative entities in all their forms fulfill a function in this huge organism, we are all parts of the Whole.
Now, I'm ready to fulfill my karma and have a peaceful, tranquil life where I can develop my physical and non-physical abilities without constant drama. Sometimes, being apart works out better.
I've learned to seek refuge within my own core and be my own guide. Having a broader view of things changes everything :-)
I know all too well what it's like when family acts this way. It is not easy. Even for family, establishing boundaries can be essential.
We should always remember that we are ALL sons and daughters - children - of Source, The One, God, therefore are all one infinite family. When we bring children into this world, they are not "our" children, we are surrogate parents for Source, and raise the children with Love accordingly. There can be no ownership, such as "my child" and there can be no obligations either way. Everything should be out of Unconditional Love. If anyone, at all, "earthly relative" or not influences, or tries to influence us negatively any way, then the sensible course of action is to distance ourselves from such a person, however difficult that may seem. Everyone on Earth is on their own trajectory of Spiritual evolution, and by allowing only positive people and circumstances into our life can we live a happy and fulfilling life, and be best in a position to help and uplift others to do the same, should they so wish.
Dolores Cannon was a big proponent of breaking free from those that harm us, even family. She of course encouraged one to visually and mentally tear up the soul contract that ties two people together in an unhealthy relationship. In doing so we must forgive, then move on. It is helpful.
About 9 posts above, I was discussing the tunnel of light. I just came across this video. This is very similar to what I experienced during my first projection (that was not a medical incident induced). The tunnel I experienced had some blue hues and the brighter white light extended into the foreground more as well, making it a bit more inviting and beautiful. I was also traveling a fair amount faster through the tunnel as well, but overall the feeling I get watching this does bring me back to the experience.
Energy continues to be a barometer for my metaphysical activity. Both activities are incredibly linked together, and is such a reassurance that what I am seeing and feeling is real. A beautiful synergy which I feel very fortunate to experience. One without the other would not be as impactful to me. Occasionally they come individually, but mostly together.
Quote from: Frostytraveler on October 16, 2024, 20:02:21Energy continues to be a barometer for my metaphysical activity. Both activity are incredibly linked together, and is such a reassurance that what I am seeing and feeling is real. A beautiful synergy which I feel very fortunate to experience. One without the other would not be as impactful to me. Occasionally they come individually, but mostly together.
You have to love all of the special "gifts" and perks that come along with non-physical exploration. It really has a way of giving you and showing/teaching you what you "need", not always what we want.
That rings very true, especially of late.
In the physical world I also feel the energy of others. Sometimes it's a good sincere and loving energy. Sometimes it's a neutral feeling, but occasionally it's a feeling of ill will or insincere intentions. This malevolent energy is the easiest feeling/energy to read.
The question is, is the production/emitting of my internal energy and the feeling/reading of other people's energy related? I assume so. As Dolores Cannon said that living here in the physical world is all about manipulating [fine tuning] our energy.
Woke up last night with mild to moderate energy surges. Saw lots of imagery. Enjoyable show. Then realized something different. The room was dark, but realized while viewing all this imagery my eyes were open! Very unusual feeling as the imagery "overruled" my normal vision. Can't tell you how strange a feeling that was. On all prior incidences of visual imagery, my eyes have always been closed.
Quote from: Frostytraveler on October 18, 2024, 08:13:38Woke up last night with mild to moderate energy surges. Saw lots of imagery. Enjoyable show. Then realized something different. The room was dark, but realized while viewing all this imagery my eyes were open! Very unusual feeling as the imagery "overruled" my normal vision. Can't tell you how strange a feeling that was. On all prior incidences of visual imagery, my eyes have always been closed.
This is why for over ten years now I have worn a sleep mask every night. I wanted to erase any "doubt" on whether I was seeing with my "physical" eyes or my "np/astral/mind's" eye. For the first few years I used a mask called the "Mindfold". It worked well but was a bit too rigid for some sleeping positions. I then found an excellent one called the "Escape Luxury Mask". It is very comfortable. It has indents where the eyes are, so that you can't feel your eyelids brushing up against it. It is also fully washable, which I have done many, many times now. I am on my second one in 8 years.
https://www.amazon.com/Essentials%C2%AE-EscapeTM-Cavities-Earplugs-Peacefully/dp/B003CGIBYQ?th=1
Thanks for the link Lumaza.
I have been preoccupied with physical world things over the past few weeks. So I have not meditated. I have only gone for some walks in the woods, exercised and have kept up with my Qigong. I haven't even initiated any activity (until last night) with my motion rundown.
So what has been happening as a result? Well, activity has been finding me, nudging me to take note. I have been still waking up to energy surges that are very euphoric and heavenly, as well as some beautiful morphing geometric images. Also 1 or 2 beautiful astral energy/divine events have occurred. Last night I initiated the motion and like clockwork activity started within minutes and I phased to an astral city. Usually my astral events are sole adventures, or with few others present but this time it was a fairly busy city.
The point is, energy continues to be (for me) the primary catalyst to connecting with spirit and the Divine. The ratio of energy to spiritual activity continues to be incredibly high. Once again, this leaves no speculation of "if" this is a dream vs "if" this is real, because it is real. The energy is so objectively active and present, so much so that it either bring me to awareness or even fully wakes me up from a deep sleep. It is very moving and an incredible feeling that the energy goes hand in hand with spiritual activity, lessons, adventures and contact.
Coming from someone who has always been very proactive in healthy living, exercise, and furthering the mind via self reflection, and extended education, (as well as the individual quest to research everything that interests me) I can say this fascinates me to the core and leaves me no doubt that what lies beyond the veil is just as real as what lies before it.
Hi Frosty, I just wanted to report here on your thread that about a month ago, I started practicing Qigong for an hour every night before bed. Although I'm still at a really very basic level, I can see my progress and how I'm getting better and my joints are creaking less, lol. While I still have a lot to learn about this venerable practice, I feel a noticeable difference in my mood; it's like night and day. It's really helped me with my anxiety issues, and I truly believe it's helping me balance my energy.
I feel very relaxed after practicing, and I feel a sense of well-being, like my whole body is smiling. It's also my daily mindfulness meditation moment, where I connect with my body, the Earth, and the present moment.
I actually wanted to comment that I had an episode of waking up in the middle of the night feeling something very strange, like what often happens to you.
After practicing, I went to bed and two hours later, I woke up feeling like I was partially out of my body, but there was a huge, very strong "swirl" spinning clockwise in my lower abdomen area, which could be the place between the second and third chakras. But this swirl was so strong that there was a moment of great confusion; I left my body for a moment, something happened with that swirl but I don't know what, I got disoriented or something, and then I returned to my body and opened my eyes. I've never felt anything so strong before that has to do with swirls in the body, and I woke up scared, thinking something bad had happened. But no, everything was perfectly fine, and I fell back asleep.
I really believe that the energy is starting to move and improve.
Thanks for all!
That's great to hear Tak. Yes, Qigong is great for physical health and brings on a very peaceful state during and after the session. Of course it increases one's energy and can help increase metaphysical activity as well. Keep up with it!
Here is an excellent video from Dr. Joe Dispenza that describes this energy phenomena in great detail. This explains a lot from a bio-metaphysical analysis. Really fascinating.
After I took Joe Dispenza's course (over 20 hrs worth of intense motivational speaking and scientifically based information, practical exercises, etc.) I noticed a significant shift, like skipping several steps of the ladder. I literally could not stop watching. The information was resonating so strongly with me and it was like an addiction. I didn't want to pause it. A few months after I finished the course I took Dolores Cannon's QHHT course and I noticed a lot more skipped steps :). The best best things I ever spent my money on were these two courses. They really accelerated my development. Joe Dispenza opened my eyes to the concept of meditating with my eyes open, meaning I feel my power, I feel and know who and what I am at all time, not only during mind quieting/meditation but at all time no matter what am I doing.
Yes, Joe Dispenza and Dolores Cannon are incredible authorities. As far as energy development goes, one more I would add to the list is Robert Bruce's Treatise On Astral Projection Director's Cut V9. The earlier ones are fine as well, but the latest version appears more refined.