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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: realism on March 29, 2004, 02:07:30

Title: Attacked ?
Post by: realism on March 29, 2004, 02:07:30
Do you know the Bellilin? you seem to know the conjurations and the COP so i assume you know how to sing the bellilin.
Before your astral attempts sing that, and then do the COP.
If you manage to get to the astral, and see/sense any negative entity then do the jupiter conjuration.
What you have to remember is that nothing in the astral can harm you in any way at all, you have control of your state there, and the best state for full control is one of passive awareness. Be aware of where you are, but do not allow any emotions to arise greatly, as you will probably return to your body.
If you are being attacked it is most likely by a Negative Entity, in which case the conjurations should work if done properly.

Hope you fare better next time.
Title: Attacked ?
Post by: Patrik on March 29, 2004, 07:12:28
realism,

Thank you for your reply. I always do the Bellilin conjuration followed by a circle of protection before my practises and sleep. However didn't seem to do much good. I didn't do the conjuration while actually out though, the fear took the better of me. The Bellilin takes forever to sing, especially when you have a neg on your back ;) I didn't try the Jupiter one, mostly because it requires you to use the hands and that's not possible when you are being paralysed. Perhaps it works anyway, in which case it's worth a try.

I am also thinking if the prenounciations of the Bellilin is wrong and that matters... I do know how it should sound, and I think I get it pretty good but it just doesn't sound 100% right...

Anyways thanks, I guess I just have to keep trying till I solve it.


Title: Attacked ?
Post by: Nay on March 29, 2004, 09:12:06
Hey Patrik [^]

I don't think you are being attacked, I believe that it's your astral body feeling your physical body.  I gave my Robert Monroe book to my sister, so I can't look it up for sure but if memory serves me right he had problems with feeling and hearing someone breathing while pushed up against his back.  He finally figured out that is exactly what it was, his physical. [:D] Perhaps someone out there has the book in hand and can look that up for me..[;)]

As for the paralysis, RB suggest learning and practicing conscious-exit projection reduces the frequency of paralysis episodes, but the simplest and most direct approach, is to clear the mind (refuse to fear) and concentrate on moving a single big toe.  For some reason, a big toe is the easiest body part to reanimate during a waking-paralysis.  Once a big toe moves, even slightly, waking paralysis will end. [:)]

Hope this helps!  Sounds like you are doing great to me!!

Nay
Title: Attacked ?
Post by: Patrik on March 29, 2004, 10:01:11
Nay,

Thank you for your reply, it is possible that that's what it is... not sure though but worth looking into. I have all three of his books, but unfortunately haven't had the chance to read them yet (except from a few chapters). Perhaps I should spend some time looking through them...

As for paralysis... I have had waking paralysis, and do know how to handle it. However the paralysis mentioned was in the astral after split, not when awake. I.e. I split, feel "something" on my back, paralysed can't move... I get worried and snap back to physical.

It is possible that I had feelings of both astral body and physical body at the same time (has happened a few times before). And I simply tried to move my physical body, but since I split it was paralysed and I couldn't. I got afraid and snapped back before realizing I tried to move the wrong body. Feeling two bodies at the same time is confusing at times... Also worth looking into.

Title: Attacked ?
Post by: bluejay on March 29, 2004, 11:01:38
Nay, You're right. He (Monroe) splitted and had some kind of "creature" on his back and felt whiskers. But later he just found out that it was his physical body and he hadn't shaved for a while [:D]

Cheers
bluejay
Title: Attacked ?
Post by: Patrik on March 28, 2004, 21:16:06
I think I am being attacked...

First I wake up many times during a 12 hour period, feeling I should be able to get out, but can't move my astral body for 2 penny... I think it's just me... I fall back to sleep, wake up, back to sleep etc... Thinking I am too excited, or some other reason.

I woke up again, very tired, so tired I barely knew I was in bed... But I was concious and for some reason wanted to see if I could activate real-time sight (where I see through eyelids but still feel I am in body). After som trials and errors I could suddenly make out my body behind the closed eyes. I started to feel I was becoming split, and could feel my entire body. Then I felt a huge weight on my back, like someone was pressing me down real hard. I started getting scared ( I think I "felt" something too I.e. negative emotion). So tried getting back to physical which I managed after a few seconds.

I started thinking I was imagining it. So I fell back to sleep, woke up and felt I "should" be able to get out. But wasn't able to move my astral body just like all other times during the night. Then I asked for help to remove whatever was on my back. And suddenly I felt very light, and felt myself floating up, but I of course ruined it by starting to think of my physical body etc...

Now I began to be convinced I was being attacked by something... Layed thinking of it, trying to enter trance, and sleep, switching between the two seeing if I could get out more after the help. But didn't really succeed...

Quite a while later I finally felt I could go back to sleep. But tried to keep mentally awake while body entered a trance. I tried to get real-time sight again (I tried a LOT of times before this in bed btw, no success what so ever). But finally could make out some things through my eyelids, think they were fictional though (not the real-time sight as above where I could see body), and I could hear sound/music I knew wasn't there. Then BAM split. Now I felt I was fully split, tried to get up. But noticed I was paralysed, I fought like crazy but impossible to move. Then I realized I had the weight on my back again... And it "felt" like it kind of moved, but it was so little that I am not sure about that. Anyhow I asked for help again, waited a few seconds. But the fear became too strong and I "willed" myself back into physical.

I did conjurations when in bed, I did a circle of protections before going to bed... I imagined myself surrounded by protective light shortly before the split took place... I imagined my body being covered by fire...

Huha? What more can I do, just wait till they get bored? ;)