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Regarding the tunnel experience seems like you have had a real astral projection. Congratulations!

I think you have just found your method. Try to repeat it by recreating the conditions you had at that time.

quote:Is it possible to OBE without the rolling/pulling yourself out of the body?

Definately. Even RTZ-OBEs are possible that way. Bodies that are able to travel great distances are not connected to our phyical body (they are composed from virtual particles that condensated out from the vacuum at our localised RTZ perception).

Feelings of getting out of our body either could be "false" or "real." It's tend to be false in those cases when you have no vision from the very beggining and/or you have no feelings of being pulled back. These experiences start like you would getting out of your bed blindly. After having your sight again you would find yourself in the mental representation of your bedroom as it is being modified by your sunconsciousness (somewhere around the lower F22).

As an opposite, in real OBEs your separation efforts would drag out a little amount etheric substance that have to be saved back before you slip through the RTZ into F22-dreaming.

[Kodemaster]

quote:Originally posted by krmason

Is it possible to OBE without the rolling/pulling yourself out of the body?

Absolutely!

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Do a site search on "phasing"...especially in the Astral Consciousness section.

Do a username search under the name Frank...he had a lot of posts on this very topic...the man's a friggin' genius...

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[krmason]

Is it possible to OBE without the rolling/pulling yourself out of the body?

I have been practicing for a while and get all of the symptoms but never seem to know when to try to get out of my body.  

Lately, however, when I meditate, I suddenly find my self flying with full control.  I have found myself in caves, over cities and lots of neat places.  Last night, I found myself hovering a a huge funnel shape object where the walls kept changing colors.  Very intense colors from the whole spectrum.  I was pulled inside and saw a person floating on the edge.  I was about to talk to him when my kid disturbed me and my eyes opened.  At no time did I feel like I was asleep.

What I am asking is, am I doing an OBE or am I falling asleep and having lucid dreaming?  I am in full control all of the time.