Blacking out and finding yourself in the non-physical - how do you do it?

[kuurt]

In the book "My Big Toe" by Thomas Campbell, he talks about how when he was like 7 or 8 he had some playmates in the non-physical that would pull him out of body.  When they did this it was an easy exit - he didn't have to go through the vibration stage which can seem very violent, instead he would black out for a second and then find himself out of his body thanks to their assistance.  I have also heard other people describe their experiences similarly in that they too would black out for a second and find themselves in the non-physical. 

He said later he decided he wanted to learn how to exit on his own without their help, but they discouraged it.  They said this way is easier.  But, he insisted on trying.  And when he tried to project out on his own it was different and harder.  He would experience the vibration stage which got really intense and it keep him from projecting.  So he gave up on that and went back to doing it the easy way with their help. 

I'm just curious about this way of doing it because I've never experienced blacking out for a second and finding myself in non-physcial.  Is it easier to do it that way than to go through the vibration stage which can get very intense?  How can you get yourself to black out like that?  Is it only possible to do that with assistance from the non-physical? 

[Astralsuzy]

I have been pulled out of my body a number of times.   I do not know if this is true or not.   My inner self might have other ideas and come out on its own.    I would do both ways or anyway that will work.   I would not limit myself to one way of doing things.    I exit a number of different ways.   I would not believe everything you read.   The vibration stage is not difficult.   It can be fun.   Accept what ever happens and go with it and you will be fine. 

[omcasey]

Hi Kuurt

My perspective:

First-- Whether the personality cognizes the fact or not it is always being 'helped out'. This in itself can be very alarming to a consciousness accustomed to experiencing within a 'privacy' [or separation] construct. The personality grasps the assistance it is receiving only gradually, at its own pace, on it's own terms. This said, the assistance can be anywhere from mild to quite overt. It is always observing and respectful of your free-will. Your openness and readiness for more. The central nervous system must also be considered. It too must be opened and readied. The process is delicate. And, yes, as Tom so evidenced as a child the love and respect of the central nervous system, while it is itself in the process of cohering to the higher flows is best shown. A brief 'passing out' of conscious awareness and re-phasing back in once in the other fields is the grace of the finer consciousness levels. It is not something the person does from it's level. What the person does from it's level is to the best of it's ability, continue increasingly further in to it's ever expanding states of experiencing by remembering to connect within itself with the rest of itself. The remembering sometimes comes slow. At a certain point a full cohering takes place.

Here is a funny video I put through in 2010 that goes into exactly this.

The Void:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPnXd8IgHZM


I hope this is helpful.

Casey

[kuurt]

The vibration stage is not difficult.   It can be fun.   Accept what ever happens and go with it and you will be fine.

I wish that were my experience, but it hasn't been.  For me it's been very difficult, anything but fun, and I've never been able to relax into it even though I know that's what I'm suppose to do. 

Whether the personality cognizes the fact or not it is always being 'helped out'. This in itself can be very alarming to a consciousness accustomed to experiencing within a 'privacy' [or separation] construct. The personality grasps the assistance it is receiving only gradually, at its own pace, on it's own terms. This said, the assistance can be anywhere from mild to quite overt. It is always observing and respectful of your free-will.

Are you talking about a spirit guide or your oversoul?  I do believe that separation is a construct and that we are all one, and personally I would find it comforting to know that I have the assistance of a guide.  So I'm not sure why I don't sense any assistance giving my beliefs.  And since I'm trying to astral project of out of my free will, why wouldn't it help me with that and make the process easier for me? 

All of the times I've reached astral awareness it's started from the dream state or while I was sleeping.  And there's only been two occasions where I encountered a being that could be a guide.  I'm really not sure if that was the case.  But, one of those times it was as if I just manifested in front of her and she seemed shocked by it and asked me what I was doing there as if I shouldn't be there.  This makes me wonder if they sometimes try to keep us from the non-physical for some reason.  Even in Tom Campbell's book, he talks about how there were several years when they wouldn't let him come back to the non-physical - they literally blocked him from it, at least from the conscious experience of it.  He was told that it was for his own good as they wanted him to grow up to be somewhat normal so he could fit in to society.  So do we really have the free will to astral project any time we want? I'm not so sure. 

A brief 'passing out' of conscious awareness and re-phasing back in once in the other fields is the grace of the finer consciousness levels.

Do you mean to say that it's more likely to occur as we get closer to the edge of falling asleep - a less conscious state?

It is not something the person does from it's level. What the person does from it's level is to the best of it's ability, continue increasingly further in to it's ever expanding states of experiencing by remembering to connect within itself with the rest of itself. The remembering sometimes comes slow. At a certain point a full cohering takes place.

Are you saying that when we astral project we are connecting with another part of ourselves?  What part of ourselves would that be - the oversoul? 

In that video, you talked about "the void".  I was just reading a post on this forum yesterday where someone was talking about this 3D void.  I'm not sure if I've ever experienced it or not.  When people lose consciousness during the transition, does that mean they're going through the void?  Some people talk about going through a tunnel or wormhole which I've heard could be what some people call the silver cord.  If the silver cord is like a wormhole that our consciousness moves through from the physical to the non-physical, could that also be the void people are experiencing between planes? 

[omcasey]

That's a lot of questions.

Let's start with this:

Are you talking about a spirit guide or your oversoul?  

I am not bringing it into anything so specific, I am letting it rest broadly at "the personality is always being assisted". It is never left alone, the consciousness levels which complete it [conscious, subconscious, superconscious] are at all times in all ways present. And supporting.


And since I'm trying to astral project of out of my free will, why wouldn't it help me with that and make the process easier for me?

As a personality you have awareness and a flow of attention to ride. You may aim yourself at anything and ride the wave of your own attention into it.  It is up to you not to fall off.  But assistance is nearby, and available to help you out if you do. Know that if you ask it is indeed given. However, again, it is up to you to open your awareness up to it so that it is detected and received.  There are practices which help you do this.  Meditation being right at the top of the list.


So do we really have the free will to astral project any time we want?

What you have is awareness. You ARE it, you are [yourself] your own flow of attention. You are riding it always, there is no getting off, it is taking you into what you are aiming it at.  See this and you will know where your attention is in need of refocusing.  Thoughts, most specially those which have no foundation are like mud on the window of your attention. A genuine looking into yourself is required to clean the window.  


Do you mean to say that it's more likely to occur as we get closer to the edge of falling asleep - a less conscious state?

This meaning was not being put through in my thought, I was simply re-describing (as you had described yourself) the 'blacking out' and reawakening already IN there. Past the transition phenomena —which, when consciously experienced does have a transfer value effect on the body; the central nervous system. This is required for a long while (the unconscious shift), and for phases even after conscious shifts have begun to occur.  If you wish to bring the body along there is much preparation.  The process is delicate.  Long and arduous.  Most people would not want to do it.  This said, I myself am doing it.


Are you saying that when we astral project we are connecting with another part of ourselves?  What part of ourselves would that be - the oversoul?

Yes. —Keep it simple, you are connecting within yourself with the rest of yourself.


When people lose consciousness during the transition, does that mean they're going through the void?

It can mean this, yes.


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Can anyone go out of body.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYYig40hDGE

Casey