Encounters with Pure Evil

[Valkry]

Hello, everyone.

Its Tiffany here, back with yet another horror story. It happened this morning at about 2 or 3 AM, when I came out of a silly and frivolous dream, nothing to be alarmed about... I woke up in my usual sleep paralysis, and tried not to panic (I thought I was getting better at the no panicking part - but unfortunately I'll have to start from square one after these events).

Before I could even think about trying to have an OBE, I felt the most bizarre sensation. My astral body had been grabbed by the ankles, and was being pulled to the bottom of the bed. I willed myself back into position, but I was tugged again, harder. Again, I willed myself back into position. This time, however, I was tugged so hard that I was yanked off the bed.
I told myself, despite feeling terribly conscious: This is just a dream, there is NO way this is happening. This can't happen. Astral projection is safe, there is absolutely, positively.... then I was forced up against my dresser, and I could feel the hard wood against my face. Then I realized, oh no, this isn't a dream.
It was at this point that I felt the most horrible weight being pressed against my back, and I was locked there. I could make out one, terrifying muscular arm on the left side of me, holding me there. I could feel the breath on the back of my neck, that's how real this experience was. I then had a vision of what the creature looked like, kind of a Baphomet type figure, but much scarier.  I then was shown telepathically what the creature wanted to do to me, and shown images of blood and gore and the most bizarre red light patterns in front of my eyes. Everything started vibrating wildly in the room at this point. I realized that I was in (sorry for the TMI) a lot of danger of being accosted or raped, so with all my strength I forced myself back into my body...
But for some reason this was very hard to do. It was as though I was in two places at once. I could feel the monster's hold on me, and I continued to get the imagery, and every time I got back in my body, I'd end up in the same position on the floor. Eventually though, I managed to break free.

Now for round two. Even worse!

Now, before I get into this. I'm pretty hopeful this was an aspect of the self, though I did also get the "feeling" she was a lackey of some of the other creature, so I'm not sure what to believe. As I mentioned, I used to be very unstable and engaged in all sorts of self-abuse, so there are sure to be remnants of that around. This woman was unfamiliar though to me, and I had no idea I had this much hate for myself. I could sense pure, utter, and absolute hatred.  I never hated myself that way, never. Anyway, again in sleep paralysis. I felt someone scratching me, and this was painful. It was more like clawing, I could feel my skin break. There was a woman on top of me, attacking me. Then came the biting, and it was excruciating. This woman would not stop torturing me. It seemed to go on for an hour, and I tried to project towards her, but was unsuccessful. I tried not to be afraid, but after awhile this technique didn't seem to be working. Eventually I just resorted to trying to cry and scream but could make no noise. Finally, I "snapped out of it" and was out of sleep paralysis, back in my bed. The pain had been so real to me, I could still feel it even after having woken up.

Of course I couldn't get to sleep after this. *sigh* I'd love to go back to the astral realm soon, I'm going to continue to practice. I just wish these nuisances would begone. I didn't know lower astral wildlife could be so dangerous? I always thought they acted tough but didn't have the power to harm us... Now I actually have actual pain to dread from these encounters. I don't know what to do. 

Tiffany

p.s. I should embarrassingly mention that this comes a mere day after I made an open semi-open dare to any entities to just try an interfere with my astral projection progress. Was also discussing at length with my boyfriend how to bind demons, though I do recall being told that demons are exceptionally rare.  Still, I was NOT expecting anyone to hear me. I also think now, after thinking at length, that it was just my subconscious mind reacting to the thoughts I had before bed. I just wish my sleep paralysis could be a bit more pleasant instead of these wild encounters nearly every time.   

I should also note that my boyfriend says this is just a form of sleep paralysis. I'm sure I was projecting though, cause I could see my body and my cat sleeping on the bed... Hmmm... I really hope and think this is just my subconscious mind scaring the shat out of me, as always.

[CFTraveler]

This used to happen to me all the time.  I don't want to launch into the story (I've told it many times) but it changed and stopped, when I changed my mind about what was happening.
I'll just describe the main elements and evolution of the experiences as they unfolded.  This process took about three years to resolve.  So I'm merely outlining.
1- The forced 'abduction' with paralysis.  Identical to yours with the 'pulled up by the legs' thing.  I would panic and fight.  Then, as I was lifted towards the ceiling, I would see certain things and lose consciousness, to wake as I was being 'dropped back in'.    At the time, I didn't connect it with projection.  At first I didn't even realize it was astral.  This lasted for four or five years, in clusters.
2- I researched the experience once I realized it wasn't physical, found a couple of people, I tried various things to keep it from happening.  Most of these things worked- What stopped them was learning to sponge and doing it at the time it was happening.  For a while it stopped.  Then it changed, to being 'abducted' while dreaming (from my dream body, in other words.)
3- Using hematite rings made the 'abductions from dreams'  stop.  However, it made it change into a different type of experience, more scary, actually.

4-Steps 2 & 3 taught me to project on purpose.  When I started doing this, I got to 'see' what was doing the abducting.  Initial fear, but at the same time, fear turned into anger.  I confronted and fought the entity.  It was not easy or pleasant, and there was pain.   It went from scary and aggressive dweller, to a very old being who was 'teaching' me.  I changed my tactic, since I had 'seen it, done it' the fear went away, and was replaced by curiosity.

5-I went from having scary experiences to having positive evolving learning experiences.  I could consciously perceive the lessons and understand some of them.  I could see the change and progress in my path.

6- I occasionally have to change the way I do things, and can feel when things are going to get 'stuck'.  Sometimes I'm stuck a very little while, sometimes a long time.  I see them for what they are, which are time to readjust before the 'next' step, whatever that is.

7-There is no longer fear, and what I strive for is to be 'present' when things happen.  If there is anything to control is myself, but being 'present' and a 'witness' to me are the most important part.  I do not assign value to what I experience, it's just data.  If it has value, eventually I will know.  But for now it's just interesting stuff when it happens.

So, to recap, I have reinterpreted my 'adventures' many times, once there's enough information to consider 'retrospect'.  I'm still not sure what happened, but I have an idea, and it was not negative in it's intention-however, the process was extremely traumatic, yet probably suited to my personality type.

[Valkry]

Thank you for your insight, CFTraveler.

I'm unfamiliar with the term "sponge" and would very much like to try it next time this happens, so clarification on that would be wonderful.

It relieves me that this is probably just an opportunity for spiritual growth and learning. Its just very difficult to think of this when its all happening, and I do fear these creatures at the present. They are trying to make astral projection difficult for me, and in a way, they are succeeding because I have at least some level of apprehension whenever I go to sleep at night. I typically always have one or more episode of sleep paralysis (or if I'm fortunate, astral projection) a night, and I'm coming to dread them, as there is always someone in the room with me and its hard to project freely when there's that fear of harm. I will try to look at it from a different perspective, though.

Thanks,

Tiffany

[Xanth]

I know it probably goes against all forms of logic... but what would happen if you just accepted the grabbing/pulling and went with it?

[CFTraveler]

Thank you for your insight, CFTraveler.

I'm unfamiliar with the term "sponge" and would very much like to try it next time this happens, so clarification on that would be wonderful.

It relieves me that this is probably just an opportunity for spiritual growth and learning. Its just very difficult to think of this when its all happening, and I do fear these creatures at the present. They are trying to make astral projection difficult for me, and in a way, they are succeeding because I have at least some level of apprehension whenever I go to sleep at night. I typically always have one or more episode of sleep paralysis (or if I'm fortunate, astral projection) a night, and I'm coming to dread them, as there is always someone in the room with me and its hard to project freely when there's that fear of harm. I will try to look at it from a different perspective, though.

Thanks,

Tiffany

This is what sponging is:  Imagine a sponge full of warm clean water (like a natural sponge).  Imagine your legs (in this case, since this is where your problem was starting) are hollow.  Put this 'astral sponge' in the inside of the limb, and 'scrub it' on the inside, until you feel the inside is clean.
Start with your feet, then move on to your leg, up your thigh, and then the other leg.
If you've heard of brushing (this is all part of NEW), do that first on the outside of the feet, and move immediately to sponging, like this:
Brush outside of foot, sponge inside of foot.
Brush outside of leg, sponge inside of leg
etc.
Here's a thread dedicated to this in AD:  http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8810

What I did when it was happening to me, was- as soon as the paralysis set in and I felt my legs moving upwards, I would start the brush-sponge combination, and this would return control to my astral limbs.  Then I separated if I wanted to, or wiggled my toe if I didn't.

[kurtykurt42]

Thank you for your insight, CFTraveler.

I'm unfamiliar with the term "sponge" and would very much like to try it next time this happens, so clarification on that would be wonderful.

It relieves me that this is probably just an opportunity for spiritual growth and learning. Its just very difficult to think of this when its all happening, and I do fear these creatures at the present. They are trying to make astral projection difficult for me, and in a way, they are succeeding because I have at least some level of apprehension whenever I go to sleep at night. I typically always have one or more episode of sleep paralysis (or if I'm fortunate, astral projection) a night, and I'm coming to dread them, as there is always someone in the room with me and its hard to project freely when there's that fear of harm. I will try to look at it from a different perspective, though.

Perhaps I can help set up some kind of energy barrier around your room. I have created a 20 ft diameter blue sphere that draws energy from my throat chakra and funnels it into the Astral projection device (vortex generator) that I made. As long as the device is on (which is always) the blue sphere remains in tact. My teacher has projected over here several times and says that the sphere doesn't allow negative beings inside (unless I allow it) and is difficult for even him to penetrate. Apparently there is something special with the blue chakra and it's use for creating barriers against negative entities.

[Valkry]

Thanks, CF. I have heard of NEW, but I'll have to take a deeper look into it. My body is hypersensitive to energy raising (as well as suggestion), and I can usually procure hypnopompic OBEs or sleep paralysis with a little bit of this sort of work before bed. More direction and more quality results would be nice though.

Kurt, thank you so much. I would appreciate that more than I could say. My boyfriend and I are working on a banishing ritual, and we were going to use the throat chakra as well, but I could really use all the help I can get (especially since we are new to magick - but VERY ambitious about it)

Tiff

[kurtykurt42]

I don't know much about banishing rituals or Magick but I do know a thing or two about energy raising. And I'm pretty good at kicking the crap out of negative entities.

Just recently I have begun practcing with energy attacks. A couple of days ago, from my trance meditation I astral projected to my teachers house (in the RTZ) and talked with him for a while and then he said I should go to Tony's (Another fine APer). I then followed a blue beam of light over to Tony's and then talked to him about energy and asked if he could see me. He described what he saw and then after about a minute I said, 'See ya Tony, gotta Jet!' and then followed the blue beam of light back to my teachers house.

I found him sitting on a couch and yelled, 'Prepare yourself!' and he got up and looked surprised/confused. I then raised my energy into a big ball of energy and shot it at him! He dodged it, and said, 'what the hell was that?' I told him it was an energy attack... good thing you dodged it! () Then I told him I had to go and that I would be back later.

[Valkry]

Hey Kurt - last night before bed I tried something different. I put up a protective shield around me while in trance and I tried to extend it to my entire room.

This morning I had two APs, both from my room instead of from lucid dreams (from lucid dreams is the only really safe way for me to project usually) and there were NO negatives in the room with me. This is pretty much unheard of and happens so rarely. There is usually always someone in the room with me, and this renders me too afraid to project, but I'm hoping that I managed to have an effect on the beasts for once, if even temporarily. Probably just luck though, but its wishful thinking. 

Hey, can you teach me how to do that sort of energy raising? I'm probably a lot more capable of preventive techniques, but I'd love to have a backup in case they decide to mess with me again!

Thanks,

Tiff

[kurtykurt42]

Well, I'm not a very good teacher but I can help you find a few good articles and books that will get you started. I have found that energy raising is very similar to marital arts. Anyone can do it but it takes a long time to become good. You can't get a black belt in a month! 

[TheBandyTract]

Last night I had a "semi-lucid" dream in which I became trapped in a large room with metal walls. Two large dog-like creatures started sprinting toward me, snarling. I got very scared and started searching for a way out. There wasn't one, and I had no choice but to brace myself and try to fight the damn things. They got to me and leapt, latching on tight. Their claws were very long, strong, and sharp. They dug into my body with great strength, and i felt as if one of them would actually pierce my skin. The pressure increased in that spot, until I felt a large claw pierce my skin and my insides moving against it.

Then the two beasts looked straight into my eyes. They contained only hate. I have never experienced anything like it. As they stared at me, everything faded to black and I woke up. The strangest thing was... and I swear I'm not making this up... The spot on my lower abdomen that was "pierced" was throbbing and tingling. There wasn't any pain, just that odd feeling. It went away after 2 or 3 minutes.

What is especially odd is that I usually remember multiple beautiful dreams per night. I literally haven't remembered a nightmare in about two years. Last night I had three.

I'm taking this as a sign to start working more on developing my lucid dream skills. Next time I have one, I'm going to invite those things back and give them a good old-fashioned beating.

[Athymari]

Not sure if you have read it already Valkry but just to prove you arnt alone have a gander at this thread:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/it_wont_let_me_travel_help_please-t30823.0.html

They sound very similar to me, something attacking us in a false awakening/APing in our room.

It would be nice to gather all these posts into a single topic and then maybe togther we can try ways to 'defeat' them and work on it together.

[frozenlime]

High.

First of all, sorry for not bothering reading all of the replies in the thread.

Honestly, I don't think that it was your astral body/whatever trying to pull you to the end of bed at all, but a part of your sleep paralysis (projecting usually happens right after the whole SP scenario is over) . The brain doesn't understand why you are paralyzed, which results in subconcious (or concious) fear -> brain is trying to compensate by ADDING feelings of someone "evil" doing something bad to you, hence why you felt being dragged or sat on. It's common to feel being dragged/turned/whatever during SP, involving tactical (? - not sure of the right english word)/touching/pulling/being sat on and such.

For me to be able to project from a SP, I need to completely clear my mind and keep it clear during the SP. Even thinking a simple thought can ruin it for me, so if you are thinking a lot I'm quite sure you're not going to project just like that (esp. if you haven't projected a lot).

Because the hallucinations and such during SP are so intense and feel real, I used to get this uneasy feeling even by just thinking about it. In the beginning, I would always fear something happening which then resulted in exactly what I feared, even though I knew it was not dangerous, it just made an impression on me mentally and I feared seeing such bonked up things. Heck, I've noticed sometimes when I've woken up not even having a sleep paralysis that my body unintended by me is getting a "shock" in case I wake up with a SP.
Now I'm able to skip this feeling and all forms of hallucinations and go straight to projecting from SP. Before you even try to project from SPs, I think you have to overcome your SP-issues. Just wait a while and get prepared for it mentally, then face your fear. Feel completely relaxed about it and rest assured that it's completely normal and you understand what happens.

Btw, I usually keep my eyes closed when I know I have a SP. Did you open your eyes? In case, where were your PoV from? How can you see your body if it feels like you are being pulled out? Also, in my experience and after what I've read, if your body is afraid of leaving it will do everything it can to snap back - so I honestly don't believe it's trying to drag itself out, rather that the SP is causing it. Happened to me many times before.

[Valkry]

Hey frozenlime,

I've been working on overcoming my fear of sleep-paralysis. I much prefer projecting from lucid dreams and skipping this phase, as I do most mornings. Its a lot more reliable and results in better voyages for me.
When these episodes happen, I usually begin with my eyes closed and try to relax myself, but then I'll hear voices and feel sensations and my eyes will inevitably open, and I'll become afraid. I think that just intensifies it but its easier said than done to not be afraid when these happenings occur.

The reason I could see my body is because I was off the bed at one point, whatever it was had succeeded in "dragging" me off the bed and pushing me up against the dresser on the other side of the room... and I managed to look back before I was shoved against it and I saw my body on the bed.