can someone help you obe?or astral project

[astralmugee]

ive got a friend who is realy good at AP and having obes. is there a way they can help me AP? I have had no luck. I can lye there and feel nothing for hours. the first 3 times I had lye in bed trying this I got vibrations etc. now its nothing. can I have my friend sleep near me and provoke a obe or ap?

[Stookie]

I think you'd have to ask him.

[MikeMk]

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Many people telling me that I did it for them but often I even did't know them... Of course I never did it, but thay don't think so)))

If you belive it - it can be becaus world in this state can modelling every thing. Especially if you can't handle it

I have had no luck. I can lye there and feel nothing for hours. the first 3 times I had lye in bed trying this I got vibrations etc. now its nothing.

Oh... You never take any OBE by this stupid way besides accidentally
Firstly try inderect technics(just rigth after awakening and without any movement of real body)

[astralmugee]

interesting, how whould you suggest I go about an obe? almost every method I read about consists of lying in bed focusing on the blackness untill you feel vibes. then trying to project your energy. I even tryed the easy obe method that was posted. Ill have to find it for you, but attempted it with no luck.I cannot have lucid dreams. even when I know im dreaming Im stuck in it. I can do stuff, walk here and there talk to cool people etc. but cannot control it enough to stop it for a obe. I dont know if its the type of person I am or what. I can do anything, but I have to see it done before I can completly do it. so im not sure if I have to watch someone while their sleeping go into a obe or astral project or what. or maybe Im not trying hard enough. I just want to travel the stars, travel the universe through AP. but it seems close to impossible to get there. last night I stayed still for a good hour or so, focusing on the black. my mind would drift in and out and my body would feel kinda tingly. but it went away after a while, so I just went to bed. im not sure if my mind drifting was me sleeping awake or what. but I will continue reading info and try progressing somehow...

[Prophazuh]

ive got a friend who is realy good at AP and having obes. is there a way they can help me AP?

Yes, someone can help you go OOB. How do I know? One example would be when I told a dude on the Etheric Plane to pull me OOB the next time...Later, I was pulled out-of-body by the same dude I had told earlier to pull me out...

can I have my friend sleep near me and provoke a obe or ap?

It seems that it would be more easier for your friend to help you have an OBE if he or she was in the same room/area as you (because they don't really have to travel to look for you and...).

Just try to be in the MABA (Mind Awake/Body Asleep) state (obviously?) when your friend attempts to pull you OOB.

[Prophazuh]

interesting, how whould you suggest I go about an obe? almost every method I read about consists of lying in bed focusing on the blackness untill you feel vibes.

You don't need to experience vibrations to go OOB (in case you didn't know).

I cannot have lucid dreams. even when I know im dreaming Im stuck in it. I can do stuff, walk here and there talk to cool people etc. but cannot control it enough to stop it for a obe.

All you have to do is say something like, "I want to have an OBE" during a Lucid Dream. Then, you'll will instantly begin to have an OBE or you'll will wake up in the right state for an OBE attempt.

I dont know if its the type of person I am or what. I can do anything, but I have to see it done before I can completly do it. so im not sure if I have to watch someone while their sleeping go into a obe or astral project or what.

Ummm, I don't think you will see anything by watching someone going OOB (assuming you're thinking you would actually see the individuals Etheric or Astral Body seperating from their Physical Body).

[astralmugee]

thanks for the replys. I think im going to have my friend stay over and attempt a...aobe.(assisted out of body experience.) I might have to try that in my dream. im free to say what ever I want inmy dreams. so i will give it a shot.

Ummm, I don't think you will see anything by watching someone going OOB (assuming you're thinking you would actually see the individuals Etheric or Astral Body seperating from their Physical Body).

yea, it probly wouldnt do anything for me. although I have read that you can actually see a dim silver/gray entity if you observe some one going into an obe. I read it in robert bruce's astral dynamics book.

[jeck140]

I do not think it is possible to have someone help you have an OBE simply because you can not be harmed while out of body. The act of pulling some ones astral vehicle out of their body is classified as a psychic attack so I do not think it is possible. I have read all the replies to this and I have noticed that some one posted that they had a person pull them out of body. Well this probably did not happen. He probably believed so much that some one was going to pull him out of body that he programmed his subconscious to project him and summon the person who was supposed to pull him out of body to his current location. But thats just my theory 

[Prophazuh]

Okay, I respect your opinion but I know for a fact that I was pulled out-of-body. It wasn't the first time either.

My subconscious mind did not create the individual, it was an actual person that had interacted with me. I found out his name..., I was in his (?) house, saw other people, etc. It was real as far as I'm concerned.

[jeck140]

Okay, I respect your opinion but I know for a fact that I was pulled out-of-body. It wasn't the first time either.

My subconscious mind did not create the individual, it was an actual person that had interacted with me. I found out his name..., I was in his (?) house, saw other people, etc. It was real as far as I'm concerned.

I know what you mean but I meant that your subconscious might have summoned that actual person out of body and to your astral body. I still remain open-minded to all things unless they are proven false so I take both sides of the argument