Can't Advance In Vibrations

[surfingnirvana]

Hi all, I've been trying to achieve an OBE for two years now (off and on), and the farthest I've gotten is intense vibrations and seeing white (with my eyes closed).  Obviously, this is extremely frustrating.  Another odd thing I notice is, that, at the height of these 'vibrations', my physical arms are raised.  Not outright, like Frankenstein, but just like I'm lifting them.  It's very odd.

Does this make sense to anyone?
And any advice?
Thanks!

[mr_karl]

Hey there, i'm at the same point as you and have been trying myself, for about a year and a half. I sometimes find that when the vibrations are strongest my physical arms seem to lift up a little bit and I don't notice because my body is numb. Sometimes even my whole body would lift slighty, obviously your body can't be totally relaxed.

I found this hindered the vibrations from advancing for myself, I just had to realise when I was doing it and relax my body again and regain my focus.

Hope this helps matey!

[Stookie]

Some people find that doing energy work to help "raise energy" before an attempt can help this, theory being that you haven't accumulated enough energy for a total separation (I can't confirm this). The only exercises I can really suggest from personal experience is NEW.

http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/beginners/index.html

[Steel Hawk]

I think your arms are raised because you're trying to force yourself out... like your pushing out of your body but end up trying so hard that you move your physical body and break the process... does that sound right?

[ancient_one]

Hi all, I've been trying to achieve an OBE for two years now (off and on), and the farthest I've gotten is intense vibrations and seeing white (with my eyes closed).  Obviously, this is extremely frustrating.  Another odd thing I notice is, that, at the height of these 'vibrations', my physical arms are raised.  Not outright, like Frankenstein, but just like I'm lifting them.  It's very odd.

Does this make sense to anyone?
And any advice?
Thanks!

How do you know it is really your physical arms that are raised? When I first started this, I would have sworn my own arms were physically above me, but then at the end of the experience, I realize they are still under the covers. Hummm. How did that happen?  Then there is the time that I would have sworn I physically sat upright. When that ended, you guessed it, I was tucked into the covers again- or, still. All I am saying is that for me anyway, that sensation of lifting my arms felt exactly like physically lifting the arms- but it really was not my physical arms. 

[surfingnirvana]

I think your arms are raised because you're trying to force yourself out... like your pushing out of your body but end up trying so hard that you move your physical body and break the process... does that sound right?

Yeah, I think that might be it.

It's just so frustrating because this usually happens right when I feel that I'm breaking through. 

And what's annoying too is that I don't realize my arms are raised unless I open my eyes and I then see them.  At the point I notice it, they feel as if they're still on my bed where I left them. 

[surfingnirvana]

Ugh.  I tried again two times tonight and the second I felt some vibrations, but after ten seconds they weakened and them dissapeared. 

Why would this happen?

I keep trying to do the visualization of the rope method, but it hasn't gotten me past this point.

[Stookie]

A random suggestion:

Maybe you're focusing too much importance on the vibrations. The vibes bring on excitement that stops them, when it's the OBE that should bring the excitement.

Remain passively aware until the vibes reach a peak and you feel definite about separation, then do the rope.

[phxsun]

Maybe you could try pulling in more energy when the vibrations start, like the vehram system.