Can you let your spirit fade out of existence?

[zorgblar]

I heard that after you die you have the choice of letting your spirit fade out of existence.Is this true?

[rockyrojas88]

I heard that after you die you have the choice of letting your spirit fade out of existence.Is this true?

I've actually heard that that the soul can subconciously choose to die (cease to exist) by not appreciating life. I believe all souls sleep when they die and have to be resurrected to either live on or cease to exist because life was abused. I believe that if you connect with your Higher Self, which I call the Holy Spirit, then you won't have to worry about ceasing to exist.

[slipknot0129]

after you cease to exist what happens in your perspective?

[CFTraveler]

after you cease to exist what happens in your perspective?

If 'you' cease to exist there can be no 'your' perspective, since they are subjective points of view.

[Zante]

Who knows. :]

Obviously, I think it's important to enjoy life. I don't have anything to add when it comes to this sort of thing. I do doubt, however, that it's possible to 'cease existing'. When people don't appreciate life they tend to sedate themselves in all sorts of ways, be it through addiction to substances or refusing to acknowledge oneself and moving into self pity etc...

In this sense it's possible to operate from a state in which you are less self aware, that is to say you are less conscious. You can, perhaps, become dormant but the spark of inspiration is what will bring you out of that state. If you existed, then you cannot cease to exist as time is not something that exists independently of human perception. All things are happening all at once.

[RJA]

I don't think this is what you're talking about, but many religious traditions teach that ultimately everything in the Universe is one and that there is no such thing as "seperateness".  Thus our individual egos or "spirits" are actually just an illusion, a byproduct of not having full understanding or of having forgot the truth.  And thus, spiritual growth entails slowly letting go of our ego little by little as we become more enlightened, until at some point the illusion of having an individual ego or spirit is completely overcome. 

So, from that perspective, it's not so much a matter of our spirit/ego/consciousness fading out of existence but rather us remembering that they never existed to begin with.

[Milkdrops]

Hmmmm good way of putting it RJA.

I've always never been skeptical of the whole "we are all one" idea but somethings always kind of had me wondering with it:

If we are all one, why is there so much evil in the world?

[CFTraveler]

RJA Wrote: 
I don't think this is what you're talking about, but many religious traditions teach that ultimately everything in the Universe is one and that there is no such thing as "seperateness".

I have to take exception to this notion- I think that mystics have 'oneness experiences' and teach that we are all interconnected and 'of the same energy' and that separateness is just illusion- But religious traditions usually do the complete opposite- establish that this separation is actual fact and that only by following x, y or z dogma this separation can be overcome, and that's when the whole good vs. evil comes about- from the idea that we have somehow become separate and somehow must get back to it.  It sounds like I'm picking on details but I think it't important to separate what mystics teach and what the religious establishments that follow those mystics turn their teachings into.

Thus our individual egos or "spirits" are actually just an illusion, a byproduct of not having full understanding or of having forgot the truth.  And thus, spiritual growth entails slowly letting go of our ego little by little as we become more enlightened, until at some point the illusion of having an individual ego or spirit is completely overcome. 

This is something that newer religions have come to understand or believe, but IMO it's another version of the 'good vs. evil', except that 'allness vs. ego' replaces the original simplistic good vs. evil idea.  But the idea, IMO, is the same.

Milkdrops wrote:
I've always never been skeptical of the whole "we are all one" idea but somethings always kind of had me wondering with it:

If we are all one, why is there so much evil in the world?

Because as creators, we believe it's necessary, and create it.  You can't have colors without all the components that are in it, and you can't have good without bad.  If you want a quality (and good is a quality) you have to have something to compare it to.  And that's what existence is. 
I guess the idea to explore would be, why do we need existence, and why do we need evil?

[Greytraveller]

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I heard that after you die you have the choice of letting your spirit fade out of existence.Is this true?   

What a very strange, and even absurd, notion. I have never heard of this before and an curious as to where you heard this Zorgblar??

This is counterintuitive to what I would believe to be true. IF a soul can cease to exist ---and there is a great amount of debate about this --- then certainly Apathy should not be the cause. Anyway I cannot image anybody becoming so bored with existence as to wanting to cease to exist. Hope not anyway.



Grey

[slipknot0129]

if you cease to exist, does the whole existence for everybody stop because to not exist nothing will exist?

[zorgblar]

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What a very strange, and even absurd, notion. I have never heard of this before and an curious as to where you heard this Zorgblar??

This is counterintuitive to what I would believe to be true. IF a soul can cease to exist ---and there is a great amount of debate about this --- then certainly Apathy should not be the cause. Anyway I cannot image anybody becoming so bored with existence as to wanting to cease to exist. Hope not anyway.



Grey

I heard it on a another website on another astral projection called astral society i think.

[phitau]

I look at life as an entity of energy. I learned this from high school physics: you cannot destroy energy. Maybe quantum physics can provide another explanation?

[slipknot0129]

maybe when you die in 1 second a new universe is made just for you

[RJA]

I have to take exception to this notion- I think that mystics have 'oneness experiences' and teach that we are all interconnected and 'of the same energy' and that separateness is just illusion- But religious traditions usually do the complete opposite- establish that this separation is actual fact and that only by following x, y or z dogma this separation can be overcome...

Yes, exoteric forms of most religions are highly dogmatic.  I should have been more specific and said that within most religious traditions there is an esoteric form or branch (Kabbalah, Sufiism, Esoteric Christianity, etc.) that regards doctrine and dogma merely as symbolic representations of something at a higher spiritual level that can't be properly described in words, and that these esoteric traditions tend to embrace some form of banishing the individual ego (akin to buddhist annihilation) as the path to enlightenment.