Nice to meet you

[higher_self]

hello everyone.


i just found this forum .

It's been 2 years that i found out about about OOBE and AP-ing , i have had 2 or 3 minor experiences , but never one full one . Maybe it is cause i never focused on doing this the right way . I believe that now , after reading intensely your technics , i will manage to do it . I want to heal my astral body and understand my purpose of being on this planet , i want to know what is my life-goal , and become a better human being .


From across Europe , i wish you the best , and send you lots of positive thinking and energy .


Peace

[MisterJingo]

Welcome higher_self, and good luck in the journey ahead of you

[higher_self]

hello you too , i reading all kinds of topics in here , many helpful ones,but many scary ones too , doubts are rising to my head bout this

[MisterJingo]

hello you too , i reading all kinds of topics in here , many helpful ones,but many scary ones too , doubts are rising to my head bout this

The astral (astro mental), by definition is a subjective experience. There are many similarities in the precautions one must take when using mind manifesting drugs like psychedelics and when actively attempting to OBE. By this I mean such activities both manifest the subconscious, and can make us face repressed memories/energies, or subconscious archetypes head on.
Although one should be precautious, always remember that firstly nothing can ever harm you against your will when projecting. Secondly, a positive attitude can make what might be a bad experience into a positive one. Thirdly, bad experiences (bad trips likewise) are just experiences, we learn from them. They are only "bad" because we class them so.
I would say don't rush, if you are not ready for an experience, don't force it upon yourself. Also, keep an open mind, don't believe everything you see, and don't assume or have expectations (these can guide or attempt to guide experiences down avenues they might not want to go – so can cause tension). Even if you have strong personal beliefs, don't be afraid to challenge them or change them based upon new experiences/knowledge.
I've been projecting for a long time and am yet to have a single experience which I would count as "bad". There have been some scary moments, but keeping a level head, and keeping things in perspective have turned them around.

Edit: Regarding not believing everything you see, also don't believe other peoples experiences of the astral as truth, or their views or philosophies. Listen to them, take on board anything which resonates, but find your own answers.

[higher_self]

Wise words !Thanks for that
In particular what i was reading was the "need" topic , about this guy who lost his mind and was speaking about his guardian being a daemon and so on...

[MisterJingo]

Wise words !Thanks for that
In particular what i was reading was the "need" topic , about this guy who lost his mind and was speaking about his guardian being a daemon and so on...

All I will say is take what each person experiences as their own experience. They do not reflect on what you yourself might experience.
I think a lot of people underestimate the degree of suggestibility that the astral state imposes on us. That is, negative subconscious thoughts, or repressed fears can become manifest. Not only that, but feeding these thoughts with fear or attention can create thought forms (Seemingly independent beings) which might seem demonic or negative.
I'm not saying all negative beings are self created, but I think a large portion that people have trouble with might be.
It can be a complex area, where we do not always see the undercurrents of situations, but keeping an open mind goes a long way to having positive experiences.

[higher_self]

Maybe the "astral expose" to our sub-conscious and suppressed fears can tell if someone must talk to a psychologist or face his fears or resolve these thoughts...So maybe dealing with this issue , is for good..
Anyway ! My mom was very love-giving to me when i was 4 so i think I'm OK !  [just kidding]

[MisterJingo]

Maybe the "astral expose" to our sub-conscious and suppressed fears can tell if someone must talk to a psychologist or face his fears or resolve these thoughts...So maybe dealing with this issue , is for good..
Anyway ! My mom was very love-giving to me when i was 4 so i think I'm OK !  [just kidding]

If I'm honest, speaking to a psychologist to work through repressed emotions/fears would be a good start to astral explorations - that's if people had the money/inclination
Astral experiences will generally let us work through these experiences ourselves, or bring to the surface hidden fears which we had no idea about.
Not judging, or classifying these experiences, but looking at them objectively (sometimes this is hard) goes some way to resolving them. It's all a learning experience .