Cant handle the vibrations!

[Meg]

Sorry folks, I just thought of another questions I've been meaning to post. Everyone is always saying that when you strart hearing voices and images pop into your head, that means you are getting close to the astral.  This happens to me frequently just as I am going to sleep - sometimes an OBE follows after the aforesaid 90 mins, sometimes not (or else I have forgotten.) Now, my question is this: HOW exactly do I go from the point of having this "astral perception" to actually being out of body? The images/voices don't necessarily accompany any vibrations, mostly they don't, in fact.

Ta,
Meg

"...listening like the orange tree..."  - John Shaw Neilson

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Meg:
Sorry folks, I just thought of another questions I've been meaning to post. Everyone is always saying that when you strart hearing voices and images pop into your head, that means you are getting close to the astral.  This happens to me frequently just as I am going to sleep - sometimes an OBE follows after the aforesaid 90 mins, sometimes not (or else I have forgotten.) Now, my question is this: HOW exactly do I go from the point of having this "astral perception" to actually being out of body? The images/voices don't necessarily accompany any vibrations, mostly they don't, in fact.
Ta,
Meg

Meg, I Know what you mean.  The majority of my projections have happened after I've drifted off to sleep, only to snap back to my full waking awareness some point later.

This is what I believe is the key to making a full, conscious projection without losing awareness.  First, you're on the right track by relaxing and analyzing any hypnogogic imagery that comes before you.  As I've mentioned before, I always try to hold a stare on these images, which become incredibly vivid before disappearing.

The more these images come to me, and the longer I can hold them, I take that as a sign that I'm getting close to the astral border.

Now the tricky part, and I'm only speaking from my experience here.  It may be different for others.  I think at some point, you have to "let go" and let the built-up INTENT that you've created propell you through that thin border of the astral realm and your imagination.

For example, you and I have both seen that after some time to sleep, we seem to "spontaneously" wake up with the ability to leave our bodies, right?  Well, I think if we were to not necessarily lose consciousness, but lose control (e.g. get out of the drivers seat for a couple of seconds), that's all we need to have our INTENT take over and push us into that point where we've crossed over and we're ready to exit.

Make sense?  This is why it's constantly stressed that having a STRONG intent is key, because when get to a certain point, it's this built-up intent which takes over....like carrying a small child to bed from the living room....and places us where we need to be.  Sometimes this carrying process takes a second or two, which creates the illusion that we never gave up any control.  Other times, it takes hours, and we wake up in the middle of the night, already in the place we need to be.

That's just my theory on it.


Keep smiling,

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[Windameir]

Meg
I can't comment on the Obe yet still working on it myself but as for the motion sickness Here in the US we have something called dramamine thats over the counter medication for motion sickness. If all else fails give it a try or ask your pharmist if they could recomend something. Good Luck.

Happy Travels
Windameir

[ralphm]

I thought it was said somewhere the vibrations get lighter the more you obe. Do you have an easy time exiting when you have strong vibes? The last few times i had strong vibes i think i had a hard time getting out. I think the motivation is not on the conciuos level because as soon as i awake with buzzing i feel the desire to get out and go-maybe i am in too much of a hurry!  But sometimes it seems so hard that the only thing that got me out was that drive.Why do you think you have a problem with recall? Once i wake i pretty much keep aware unless i drift into dreams or just can't move or see. For your second post- sounds like you are a candidate for the phasing method discussed in the astral forum.

[Meg]

Hi everyone,

Up till now, I've been projecting by doing some basic relaxation etc before going to sleep. More often than not, I will wake up about 90 mins later in the vibrational state and will be able to project from there. Recall has been a serious problem , and I have been trying lately to project completely consciously. The problem is that every time I let the vibrations build too high, I get the most terrible sense of motion sickness. I honestly cannot stand it - the rocking, buzzing, ringing, it makes me feel physically ill. It seems to be one thing simply waking up with them going full bore, and another thing entirely to feel them building up.

Anyone got any tips that might make it a little bit less of a stress?

Thanks,
Meg

"...listening like the orange tree..."  - John Shaw Neilson