The Astral Pulse

Hi All!

  I'm new in this site which I'm enjoying a lot, thank you all guys!

  I'd like to try the O.B.E's, that's why I'm here searching useful information. I've read once that it's very important to balance your energetic body before going 'out there', and some people talk about chakras...

  I did read lots of books about yoga, chakras, nadis, prana and so on years ago. I remember I started visualizations, meditations, etc to activate them but I threw in the towel when reading book after book I realized that for some 'masters' the 'heart chakra' was green when other 'master' described it as blue or yellow... One used to say the bijamantra for the third chakra was LAM and in a magazine's article you could read it was YAM...

  What to believe? Is it important to activate chakras? If so, How to do it? Who to believe about colors, mantras, etc?

  I hope to learn a lot more from all of you

  ~Joe~[/b]

The contradictions you describe are only a problem when comparing different systems to each other. It is okay to use a system which says the heart chakra is green and then move on to one which says it is pink and then move on to one which says it is gold. What matters is that while you are using each system you make sure to follow only its descriptions. All of the systems you are reading about have gotten results for someone and will continue to get results for other people. Giving them all a fair chance - so long as you do it one at a time and give each a fair try - will provide you with a way of seeing what works for you and which is your favorite. Then just stick with that system and don't worry about how it may seem to contradict other systems. The nice thing about these forums is that most of us are familiar with Robert Bruce's system so we can have common ground for discussion.

Hi Tom,

  Thanks for answering.

  What you said seems to me like if it does not matter the colour you visualize but, how about the location of those chakras? I've also read discrepancies about this topic.

  You mention Robert Bruce's system. Where can I read about it before deciding if buying any of his books?

  Thanks again,

    ~Joelop~[/b]

Quote from: joelopI've read once that it's very important to balance your energetic body before going 'out there', and some people talk about chakras...   What to believe? Is it important to activate chakras? If so, How to do it? Who to believe about colors, mantras, etc?

:arrow: Is it important to balance your energy body before OBE ?: no but your OBE will be much more enjoyable and productive when it is perfected .


:arrow: What to believe? :your own eyes your own experience confirmed by trusted mates lol

:arrow: Is it important to activate chakras to (OBE)?: no but your OBE will light them up and colour them in .



To begin OBE 3 prerequisite skills are desirable

achieving the meditative state
developing basic clairvoyance
and basic energy body awareness[/list:u]

CHAKRAS
The layers of light that imbibe the chakras after conscious development begins can be witnessed clairvoyantly .The basic opening of the 7 spinal chakras occurs naturally without having to put in any effort but without much benefit to our projection ability  .We don't have to make  chakras open up to begin OBE . Prayers ,Dreams , Service,Meditations and Projections etc. continue to open chakras up .  Healing and reading for example speeds up their opening . The opening is rather a symptom of our development and if we could jumpstart them to open prematurely to the development we would not necessarily achieve any result but their colouring in.

The colours tend to be subject to great debate but there is still a prevailing viewpoint that the colours are in ra ainbow energy order of the EMR spectrum from
basal red
abdominal  orange
solar plexus yellow
heart  green w
throat blue
third eye indigo
crown violet
Many  teachers will tell the students to visualise their own system and then stay with that so that if they see silver or gold on the crown visualise that instead of violet . We can all develop our clairvoyance to the point where we can witness the colours of the chakras and when you do you will best be able to say for yourself . I do see them on sitters during readings and I find the throat and the crown are often the most variable . For example the throat is blue on all sitters i have viewed but may appear turquoise blue , pale blue , dark blue , or royal blue . The layers fo light that build up the light quotient in the subtle energy bodies manifest as variants in this basic colour scheme so that when the golden layer fills in we can view golden coming thru the centre of each chakra and subsequent to that we will see platinum blue come thru each chakra when the third layer of light enters them.
http://au.msnusers.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom/chakras.msnw
http://au.msnusers.com/AuntClairsParlorSpiritualReadingRoom/measuringyourprogress.msnw

MANTRAs
Much more powerful than the vocal chant of syllables or aum is the musical intonation or instrumental mantra which can open the vortex to specific realms and to invoke the presence of particular ascended masters in spirit . Mantras are very useful for these purposes after projection is mastered . They can be of some limited use in aiding initial projection attempts .

ENERGY BODY
The perfected energy body is easy to see but it is not as easy to view the partially developed one clairvoyantly .The colour of the chakra last opened can give us a clue as to teh development of the energy body . These areas of warm electric colours and cold magnetic colours on the perfected energy body are also symptomatic of devlopment . It is not necessary to have the colours to begin OBE . But once the colours are witnessed it is  likely that the person has had a great deal of OBE and can feel with sense and use their spiritual bodies effectively .

The best way to develop the energy body is to practice AP regularly, to meditate and to exercise and stimulate the energy body . Read Astral Dynamics towards this end . There are many  methods to develop energy body awareness in this book by Robert Bruce the owner of this site .

It is common in Vajrayana Buddhism to move chakras and channels around from one meditation to another, even. It is not so much actually moving them as just using different locations. In that case the important thing to keep in mind is to just pick a meditation and not mix it with other meditations.

Hi Aunt Clair/redcatherine,

Thank you very much for the information you posted here.

I've just had a look at you website... I like it!  :wink:  I'll need some time to read it all. I think some chakra pix from it could help me with my visualization.

You said: «To begin OBE 3 prerequisite skills are desirable
               achieving the meditative state
               developing basic clairvoyance
               and basic energy body awareness»

Only??  :shock:  If I have to do all these things to be able to start with OBE's I think I'll need 5-6 lifespans more!  :D  

  Thanks Again!!

  ~Joelop~[/i]

Quote from: joelopHi Aunt Clair/redcatherine,

Thank you very much for the information you posted here.

I've just had a look at you website... I like it!  :wink:  I'll need some time to read it all. I think some chakra pix from it could help me with my visualization.

You said: «To begin OBE 3 prerequisite skills are desirable
               achieving the meditative state
               developing basic clairvoyance
               and basic energy body awareness»

Only??  :shock:  If I have to do all these things to be able to start with OBE's I think I'll need 5-6 lifespans more!  :D  

  Thanks Again!!

  ~Joelop~[/i]

Say that you do ,not that you won't. Say that you will ,not that you can't
Affirmations are powerful so we must use them wisely . Your intent and your practice are hugely important in development . You can do this in this lifetime and should .Do not be dissuaded by any teacher otherwise . It is a tragedy for humanity that so many say take your time . DON'T . Rush. The race is on.Our planet's " taking time "stage is over . Overcome obstacles and succeed.Meditate , Project , See and Learn .
You can ,so do ,and SHINE.
:lol:

Tom,

  That´s still confusing to me... But I think it'd be a good idea to stick just to only one practice (meditation technique, visualization, etc)

Redcatherine,

  I know you are right about the power of affirmations... That could be the key for happiness, forgetting about our mental limits, trying to see the world through different eyes.

Thanks for your words!

  ~Joelop~