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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! => Topic started by: beavis on July 22, 2003, 08:37:14

Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: beavis on July 22, 2003, 08:37:14
Hahahaha beware. I want to meet that neg, if there are any like it.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: zakaroth on July 22, 2003, 08:51:01
I agree- if there is such a thing I want to do all I can to destroy it
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 08:59:38
In my dream it was required to be at least three people saying some kind of specific prayer to be able to fight him... so you could not defeat it alone, but notice that three is very few compared to the Idea of a collective neg, and he was very big, and a bit like in abyss, made with beams of blue light, it did not really look frightening, but it was very very big, and when it came close, you could feel cold, electric, unpleasant waves go thru your all body. remember Final Fantasy? death was fast in that one!
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: zakaroth on July 22, 2003, 09:32:01
In every topic I have ever read on astral combat one thing has remained clear:

DEATH DOES NOT HAPPEN

If you are about to die- as long as the bond between you and your body is not broken- it is more likely that you will simply 'snap back' to your body and, presumably , have a chance to go back and try again- if the astral is so influenced by thought surely it would not be too hard to destroy a neg- no matter how big- and if it was so large, surely other APers or helpful entities would take notice of it as well.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 10:18:08
yes, they have had notice, but maybe it is intended to be there?

Must admit that I did not fear death in my dream, but being locked up and eaten bit by bit by these rottings appearing on the body... this situation of being locked exists for me in many ways, and I know it... but the point in that neg, was that it concerned everybody, and I feel like if it has been shown to me, it is to insist on the idea that some things cannot be handled alone.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Hephaestus on July 22, 2003, 14:05:30
Perhaps the guides that believe it cannot be stopped by one person alone do not have the capability themselves, but perhaps the capability to defeat this thing alone is not impossible. I believe if a person is spiritually aware enough a whole manner of knowledge is available beyond what guides can give us, including the knowledge to defeat a collective neg.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 14:24:36
I definatly am sure this neg was meant to be defeated by at least three persons at a time. It makes sense with all I know about the universe... so don't ever try alone if you see him!
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Hephaestus on July 22, 2003, 14:32:47
quote:
Originally posted by Frère

I definatly am sure this neg was meant to be defeated by at least three persons at a time. It makes sense with all I know about the universe... so don't ever try alone if you see him!



I definately dont believe I am spiritually aware enough or lets say. in touch enough with my higher self enough to take on a collective neg, but when the time comes if I see such a thing I will not leave in fear, and should it attack me I will 'take it on'.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 14:42:45
You surely are in the right attitude, but what is needed to do is not go for being caged like the others, but try to evitate him until you're ready to face him, which means having found (at least) two alies...

we are already five on this topic, so it shouldn't be so difficult to pray together for it to reduce in size, at least!
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: MosesB on July 22, 2003, 14:44:48
Negs are nothing to fear.If that neg exists...then bring him on because i sure as hell dont have the time to deal with its butt.It cant do anything to it unless we let it,so ill kill it the first chance i get.Its written in the bible,that men have power of those spirits,im not going to give all the details,but check out the bible and dont fear negs,cause thier all talk and no action.[^]
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 14:48:58
it is also said in the bible that there (always) comes a time when negs take over (apocalypse) but of course for a short time... proof is we are now 6 to be willing to fight it (but it would not work with negative thoughts like will to kill... so maybe MosesB couldn't participate[:D])
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Hephaestus on July 22, 2003, 15:06:25
There are supposedly 7 planes of existance within our 3rd dimension. 1 of which is the astral - which plane does this collective neg exist on? perhaps the best bet would not be to fight it on its common ground but rather you should take the higher ground so to speak.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: ronaldo on July 22, 2003, 17:46:18

he he collective neg does it look like the borg
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 17:46:46
That's an idea, but let me remind you that prayer is intended to start a love attack from the highest. Besides, I'm not sure this neg exists yet

Nevertheless, I'm sure the source of it exists in the physical, and that this source is collective, which makes it harder to fight it... see?[;)]
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: ronaldo on July 22, 2003, 18:03:46

Hey frere

Where did u get that avatar it scares me
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 18:09:00
I made it. don't be scared it doesnt pay off as you know
besides it won't jump at you in hunger and/or rage
(What the hell do you imagine when you see it so that it scares you???)
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: ronaldo on July 22, 2003, 18:16:37

I don't know, what is it. i'm sure it will give me nightmares 2nite
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: ronaldo on July 22, 2003, 18:17:50

lol, by the way r those pom poms on it's hat
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 18:18:50
When you'll be able to express it you'll feel better, contact me as soon as you want to get rid of these neg thoughts about my beautyfull avatar![8D]

no they are precious rocks (false actually)
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: ronaldo on July 22, 2003, 18:36:28


Please frere tell me what it is
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 23, 2003, 05:38:54
it's a brooch I wear when I have occasions to play in concert.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Hephaestus on July 23, 2003, 11:39:57
It looks Celtic.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 23, 2003, 12:37:50
It looks more from venice-italy in real
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: ronaldo on July 25, 2003, 18:10:13

Hi frere

I c u r musician, what instrument do u play?
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 25, 2003, 18:43:29
I answered to this privately for I'm sure it is off topic.
Title: Collective neg! BEWARE
Post by: Frère on July 22, 2003, 05:15:22
I had a dream tonight that showed me a "collective neg" it was a big dragon, and kinapped people in order to eat them alive like a spider does. My guide (with whom I can talk day and night) was unable to completely protect me from it because he is just a personal guide, not a collective light force like God would be. Do you think something as a collective neg can really exist? my dream was not a lucid dream or AP.. so of course it might be some unconscious idea transformed with yesterday preoccupations about negs and so on...