Communication with the subconscious

[Marzillian]

Hello all,

For several years i tried to understand how the subconscious works. Now the idea of it as a type of programmable machine is fairly ingrained in the community.

I tried to make it work several times and failed, but after a while i learned the empty mind philosophy or the zen approach of indifference in making it work: "Doing is not doing" etc... . This latter actually works. We know that the subconscious talks in pictures or symbols. And somehow this is correct. But it doesn't always work.

Then i turned to analogies in trying to understand it and make it work. I realized that the function of repeating affirmations for example (as words and letters are also symbols) is to induce a state of oblivion regarding the original intent (thus related to repetition). It is also commonly established that when repeating a word over and over in your head, it loses its meaning (try it). Now this loss of semantic data or meaning can be compared to the shedding of a snake skin. Then one can say that the meaning is "absorbed".

However, the level on which these meanings find themselves, is the personal level. This might work, but there is a better way.

As an analogy, it is somewhat like preparing a package. You've got your command, say "PROJECT". Now this term is loaded with info of the personal level, so it might produce noise due to interference. To solve this, i simply put "PROJECT" in a box. This is the same as the analogy of encryption, transformation. A popular way of doing this is with anagrams, that is (i believe) the key. Rhymes can also work.

Now to encrypt it, one can use "CJ's ET ROPE" which is more or less an anagram of "PROJECT"

Now "CJ's ET ROPE" is the code that has to be used as a mantra. When it loses its meaning then, "PROJECT" should be absorbed by the sunconscious and off you go.

This worked several times for me.

Have a good one,

M

[shineling]

Sounds like a good way to learning how to exit. Eventually you can get really used to exiting so you can just program yourself and *pop* you're out. It seems to me it's kind of a block. Removing this limitation will allow a person to project whenever they want. Then it's the fear of the Unknown that needs to be overcome... another block. Let's face it, the Astral is weird. Lol.  After that there is learning how to travel, and loosing your weight and floating and flying, and other people and entities, etc. in short it's a fascinating place!

[Marzillian]

Then it's the fear of the Unknown that needs to be overcome... another block.

I cannot exit consciously yet, but i do get a hell of of a whole lot of visions/flashes whenever i relax. Recently a piece of knowledge came to me that made me doubt the white light. When i go deep after relaxing, and after the flashes-phase, i manage to ignite my 'crown'. Like a halogen lamp the light gets stronger and stronger. I managed to get to this phase in 34 min. Last year it was 50 min. But that piece of knowledge i mentioned was a sort of warning; do not go into the light, instead go into the darkness. The idea is that if you enter the light, you'll die here and be reborn into another body. But if you go into the darkness, you'll exit on a higher plane.

I didn't know what to make of 'enter the darkness' as it is dark whenever i close my eyes. I meditated on this, waited and got the answer.

I was meditating, suddenly the darkness became 'hollow' or '3D' and a ring of blue light appeared (a gate of some sort into the darkness).

I still don't know what to make of this. There's some fear.

[shineling]

That's super interesting Marzillian. I've wondered about "the Light" as well. There are two stories that come to mind.

In Carlos Castaneda's books he says that his teacher Don Juan taught him that the Light was like an Eagle that would swoop down and eat you at the time of death. He said the only way to avoid it is to "duck" and enter the blue dome of the sky.

I've read the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Apparently you are visited by many types of phenomena or lights called deities. Each deity that appears must be shunned or they will take you to a type of rebirth. But there are good deities that will take you to a good womb and life.

So maybe your vision is right! Maybe entering the Light is something to be avoided.  I really don't know yet.

In my way of thinking the Light is not really illumination but Beauty. I think going into Beauty sounds safer than going into an illumination and possibly burning or being reborn. I rather seek Beauty than the Light.

Interesting topic... 

[Marzillian]

In Carlos Castaneda's books he says that his teacher Don Juan taught him that the Light was like an Eagle that would swoop down and eat you at the time of death. He said the only way to avoid it is to "duck" and enter the blue dome of the sky.

Very Interesting!

Castaneda yeah, he's a good one. Thanks for this bro. It really helps.

[floriferous]

I cannot exit consciously yet, but i do get a hell of of a whole lot of visions/flashes whenever i relax. Recently a piece of knowledge came to me that made me doubt the white light. When i go deep after relaxing, and after the flashes-phase, i manage to ignite my 'crown'.

I was meditating, suddenly the darkness became 'hollow' or '3D' and a ring of blue light appeared (a gate of some sort into the darkness).

I still don't know what to make of this. There's some fear.

Perhaps the fabled blue pearl thay Muktananda used to talk about.

[EscapeVelocity]

I like your 'anagram' technique for communicating with your subconscious; there can be a breakdown or 'staleness' to the initial programming message over time. This adds an extra degree of challenge to it.

I'm not sure in your descriptions just what kind of projection you are expecting; whether it's the basic Etheric, kind of ghost/spirit body rising from your physical body or the Phasing-type projection, where you instantly appear at your chosen destination/purpose. Either type of projection is valid but you seem stuck at a recognizable point-of-departure and not being fully aware of the fact.

The 'hollow' and '3d' kind of darkness you describe is what we commonly call the 'Void' or the '3D Darkness'...so you have very accurately and authentically described it. At this point, you have already Phased/Projected; it's just the next level variety, so congratulations. On one hand, you have projected, but on the other hand, you haven't selected a destination through your Intent. Realizing you are in the Void can also be a lesson in and of itself. The lesson may just be to show you an experience of the Void and to learn to trust it and realize that it is a kind of central hub or waystation to transition to multiple experiences and realities.

It's understandably confusing when you don't have a guidebook; welcome to the First-Timer Void Club, Lol...!!

The Void seems to be presently understood as the Multiverse Grand Central Train Station- Relax in it, lounge in it, be awed by the magnificence of it; and when you're ready, apply a proper Intent of where you want to go or experience...and express that Intent...and Boom! You are on your way!

There are some nuances involved, but I will leave those for you to discover and experience. Above all, drop the fear; you are safe, so just go with whatever experience is presented.

Here is a lengthy, yet incredible thread that educates us on the Void by an insightful and highly regarded member, Volgerle.

I would advise everyone to print it while the link may last.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/the_void-t47651.0.html

And another technique, which is a Classic and may especially find your interest, Marzillian, created by another esteemed member, Lumaza.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_doorway-t46013.0.html

Recommended for everyone. Enjoy!

[Marzillian]

Thanks for your reply, Escapevelocity. I like the general terminology you're using.

... you seem stuck at a recognizable point-of-departure and not being fully aware of the fact.

That's true. But i've not been permitted yet to project consciously. You know how these Masters are. (sigh)




Here is a nice anagram i picked up about a decade ago on the web, just for fun:

PRINCESS DIANA ----> ASCEND IN PARIS

Before her death, any smartass could have predicted her accident in Paris.



This one is more of an embedded command:

I n g o    s W A N n    T a P E   i n t e R M I S S I O N

[Marzillian]

 


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