Thoughts would be appreciated...

[stone]

Firstly, firstly,

Hi everyone,

For the last eight months my life has been spun in all kinds of new directions.  And for these months I've been reading all kinds of books, listening to all kinds of tapes, anything and everything to help me get a good grasp on what's been going on.

If you're of the patient sort, please keep reading...

So it all started with an unexpected launch from my body.  I had been delving into the realm of lucid dreams and dreaming with the gloves off, and a character in my dream, basically grabbed me by the shirt cuffs and threw me.  There was a physical sensation.  Like full body goosebumps on steroids, and I was out.

There was no question in my mind that I was out of body.  There was a slow pull, tugging me back to my body.  Kind of like a gentle vacuum tugging at me.  I kept having a thought that wasn't mine, (if that makes sense) and thought was simply, "Stay calm".  Over and over in my mind.

I started to explore my room, but controlling myself was not in the least bit easy.   The tug to my body wouldn't stop, so I decided to get farther away.  I moved towards the door...

through the door...

and the apartment on the other side of that door, was not where I found myself.  I was careening from fantastical place to fantastical place....

and have been doing this ever since it started.

Here are the problems I cannot seem to get past in my eight months of work....    Are you still tuned into this channel?  Thanks, I appreciate it.

- I cannot project myself at will.  It always happens as a result of my conduct in dreams.  Certain characters simply feel "unique".  As if they don't quite fit into the fabric of the dream.  It is always these characters that launch me into OBEs.  Particularly if I am very kind to them, or achieve whatever it is they ask me to achieve within the dream.  So in a sense my OBE life is subject to the approval of a dream.

I know.  Wild no?

- Trying to condition myself in my waking life to be less excited when an OBE occurs.  There have been times when I've gone a few weeks without anything memorably Astral occurring, and then when it does... my response is usually, "WOOHOO!  I'm OUT!"  And this excitement cascades into a body response,  and I'm yanked out of the astral, back into the physical.

- Alot of the literature I've read regarding OBEs indicates certain generic aspects, such as a buzzing/hissing sound, a silver cord, and of course, willing yourself to go OBE.... none of these things pertain to me.   Any ideas?

Also, does hemi-sync theta-waves truly assist in the process?

Thanks in advance for any and all replies...  It's nice after all this time, to find a forum.  Makes me feel alot less alone in this.

cheers,
Stone

[Telos]

It always happens as a result of my conduct in dreams.  Certain characters simply feel "unique".  As if they don't quite fit into the fabric of the dream.  It is always these characters that launch me into OBEs.  Particularly if I am very kind to them, or achieve whatever it is they ask me to achieve within the dream.  So in a sense my OBE life is subject to the approval of a dream.

I know PRECISELY what you mean. I, too, discovered OBE/Astral Projection as a result of lucid dream work in much the same way you describe.

If I may offer a small suggestion, do not ask for much advice on the subject from friends or people around you who would not understand (those who are not interested in dreams), for they will undoubtedly begin to see you as strange and suspect you of having problems. Psychotherapists, especially, will not understand. Save yourself a lot of trouble, and do not ask them for answers.

Now that that's over with, welcome to the forum! I am in much the same position as you are, trying to experiment and understand just what is going on with these experiences, what their potential is, and how they relate to reality. Good luck, and I look forward to hearing more of your experiences/experiments.

[stone]

Wild stuff.

I've been waiting a long time to hear someone say they know precisely what I mean....

No worries.  Since I began this journey I've only spoken to 2 people about it.  Far too many people are overly absorbed in their waking lives.  So as to not be labelled as a heathen, a charlatan, or a freak, I have kept this under wraps until an opportunity presented itself.

Such as a forum filled with like-minded folks.  

Interestingly enough, one of the 2 people I talk to about it is my roommate.  It came up one day, when he was telling me about a dream he had had the night before... about a turquoise umbrella that was desperately trying to get his attention.   I had lost that very same umbrella, in MY dreams, two nights earlier.

If I could I'd spend 23 hours of my day sleeping, dreaming, and trying to get out of the body....

cheers,
Stone