Did I succeed?

[Keitake]

Hello guys!

I made an attempt to OBE yesterday. I got on to the vibration stage (but I dont get any vibration o.o), but suddenly I could see my room. It was darker (the light was supposed to be on) than usual, and with some I don't know... white spots overlapping my view. And then I was confused whether I was on an OBE or a lucid dream. That shocked me and I woke up. So my question is, am I having a lucid dream or an OBE?

Looking forward to your response,
Keitake

[newmethod]

You could have been experiencing a form of astral sight (seeing with your astral eyes) which begins close to the point of exit... but you state

That shocked me and I woke up.

So sounds likely you were having a lucid dream.. If you were experiencing astral sight while still attached to your physical body or an OBE you wouldn't have needed to wake up, it would be likely that you would have maintained a stream of conscious awareness and be aware of where you were in your projection attempt.

It was extremely common for me to be having LD's about OBE's when i first started practicing AP and the room was often either lighter or darker than it would have been in physical reality.

white spots overlapping my view.

Not sure about the white spots though...

Oh! almost forgot.. if you are having conscious lucid dreams you may be able to project from the dream into an OBE.. i have done this before.. you are likely to skip the vibration stage if from LD->OBE.. i usually experience a falling sensation and "land" in my body with a bit of a jolt before this.. you may have astral sight (seeing the room around you without having your eyes open)... keep your body still, believe your physical eyes are closed - (remain looking through your astral eyes) and use an exit technique....you can project this way ... give it a go!

As of yet this is the only method i have used that has achieved an OBE. When attempting conscious OBE from the waking state when i'm touching the vibrational stage i usually have all sorts of things come up from excitement to anticipation & unworthiness which kill the vibrations fairly quickly. I am beginning to handle this better though

[Keitake]

i usually get an ld on every ap attempt, so i would just need to wake myself up or what?

[newmethod]

When i've been successful in converting an LD -> OBE i just think about projecting from inside my dream.. first this requires full lucidity and conscious control even for a short time...

The normal result of this is a melting or deterioration of the dream episode, then i feel a falling feeling (not sure if this is me re-entering my physical body or not) but after this i may or may not notice some more hypnogogic imagery (on one occasion i instantly had astral sight).. 

At times i have reentered another dream or had a continuation of the past dream from this point instead of projecting..
At times though i've been aware enough of the hypnogogic imagery and what i am trying to achieve to not be transported into a dream...

At about this time i've either slipped out effortlessly simply through my original intension (i believe) or used an exit technique (of which there are plently) to shift outside the body.. I've done this half a dozen times or so in the few weeks/maybe a month of so of practice.. (i have practiced LD's a lot over the years though, so not surprising i can shift from sleep-> dream-> LD -> into a state suitable for projection - i can do this more easily than in moving from awake -> OBE. At least so far..)

I figure i am ending up in the RTZ. i haven't ventured further than the room i am in but it looks just like it does in physical reality

i usually get an ld on every ap attempt, so i would just need to wake myself up or what?

You sound proficient at LD also...
So in answering, it is like waking yourself a little, but not too much.. become aware, have intention, and keep a flow of consciousness throughout. Remain peaceful as you become aware... I still remain on the borderline of sleep..

I imagine this is a requirement for success...

Hope this helps..
Sorry i don't know much more than i have mentioned above,

Newmethod

[newmethod]

I found this thread while reading throught someone else's version may help you.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq/how_to_enter_the_astral_from_a_dream-t19319.0.html

Thx,

Newmethod 

[Keitake]

Hi newmethod,

I really appreciate your help. I have just had an AP attempt, but this time, I think, I have reached the vibrational stage. Just to tell you what had happened, I did not hear any ringing sound but I did feel a very mild tingling feeling all over my body except for my head. And then I felt something like the world is going round and round, but I couldn't breath just like the last time I did. Is that really the vibration stage? If that is so, I would not hesitate to try that again later at night!! I'm so excited!

Sincerely,
Keitake

[newmethod]

mild tingling may just be energy moving in your enery body but i don't think everyone gets intense vibrations when they project.

then I felt something like the world is going round and round, but I couldn't breath just like the last time I did.

I'd like to think this is the vibrational stage..

I am still learning how to AP from the awake state myself.. So far i've only made it out and gained astral sight when moving from LD->OBE. When i come from this state i seem not to get vibrations...

When practicing conscious AP from the awake state i have entered states where i experience a wobbly or side to side (rocking) feeling.. This is combined with an intense enery (that i'm not sure is vibrations), but the only way i can manage to be "with" this energy is by breathing deeply and intensely. At times the breath distracts me but at other times i can maintain being with this "energy" through strongly concentrating on my double and confusing myself about where i am.. at times this energy may then be replaced with a sensation of lightness...

I really appreciate your help. Is that really the vibration stage?

No worries...

I also wonder if these are "vibrations" as i find this happens at the same time i am becoming more confused about my position (am i residing with my body or am i where i am imaging myself/projectable double to be)..

Anyone with more experience on vibrations and conscious OBE care to input whether they believe what we are experiencing are vibrations. Cause it looks like we are up to about the same point.. Are we getting close to conscious exit??