Dense world

[soarin12]

Have you guys found that there are realms where you can't pass through matter?  I had a projection last week where I kept bonking my head against the walls, windows etc. while trying to get out of a house.  I know how to pass through things and have been doing so since I started APing 2 years ago.  There was one time I momentarily lost faith in my ability and hit the wall, but then I corrected my thoughts and went right through.  This time everything was as solid as could be.  Did I have a huge 'loss of faith' or are some realms just like that? 

[Szaxx]

Interesting, I can't recall one where everything was solid other than our physical. Even in retrievals I've pulled a group of people through a wall to get them to safety. It may be something in your subconcious that you have thought about previously. Things tend to manifest like this on occasion.
Id assume you had full awareness, if it was depleted in any way then environmental changes can occur. These tend to make you gain clarity as that pulling sensation starts.

[soarin12]

I did have full awareness, yes.  This was my third projection in a row that night, and the first 2 started from inside a house as well.  In both of those I flew outside, but didn't really find anything interesting out there. --Just kind of dark and I ended up back to my body, I think, because of lack of stimulation.  Maybe because of the 2 previous boring outside experiences, my subconscious was telling me I'd have better luck inside.  (and I did, too.  The house was beautiful with a lot of cool stuff to explore.)

[Szaxx]

For nothing to be outside you must have had no thoughts on it. Thats a very clear mind and a really good thing to have achieved.
You should try to go to the 3D void (F21) and hang there for as long as possible. Enjoy the tranquility then when you feel that change coming on when times up see how long you remained there.
That's the test of a clear mind with matching control of a meditation master.
The slightest thought or question you make will manifest and end the stay.
Have a go and see how you do.
The idea is be conciously aware, away from your physical and not in any other astral or whatever realm. You are simply yourself in existance.
Oh, make sure you remember the feel, this is important for the future development you'll be making.

[Mark Alexander]

I've encountered varying degrees of solidity in OOB states.  Sometimes there is no resistance to me phasing through walls or other objects, and occasionally there is some.  At least for me, it has had some connection to how aware I was.  The more 'physical feeling' realities of solid walls and resistance to ghost-phasing usually have happened when I was fairly lucid, but not at 100%.  The same usually applies to flying: when I'm less aware is when there is a limit on how high or how fast I fly. 

[soarin12]

For nothing to be outside you must have had no thoughts on it. Thats a very clear mind and a really good thing to have achieved.
You should try to go to the 3D void (F21) and hang there for as long as possible. Enjoy the tranquility then when you feel that change coming on when times up see how long you remained there.
That's the test of a clear mind with matching control of a meditation master.
The slightest thought or question you make will manifest and end the stay.
Have a go and see how you do.
The idea is be conciously aware, away from your physical and not in any other astral or whatever realm. You are simply yourself in existance.
Oh, make sure you remember the feel, this is important for the future development you'll be making.

Thanks, Szaxx. I'll try that.  Thanks for the encouragement.  I would never have guessed that finding nothing outside was something good to have achieved! 

[soarin12]

I've encountered varying degrees of solidity in OOB states.  Sometimes there is no resistance to me phasing through walls or other objects, and occasionally there is some.  At least for me, it has had some connection to how aware I was.  The more 'physical feeling' realities of solid walls and resistance to ghost-phasing usually have happened when I was fairly lucid, but not at 100%.  The same usually applies to flying: when I'm less aware is when there is a limit on how high or how fast I fly. 

Thanks for your input, Mark.  I can't seem to connect mine to lucidity levels.  It's interesting, though, I've heard some people say the opposite of what you did--That when They're at full lucidity, they couldn't pass through walls and fly because everything looked and felt so real that it made them more bound to physical laws.  You'd think that problem would clear up pretty quick with experience, though.