Pain Teqniques for OBE

[KarmicTruthSeeker]

Disclaimer Following Subject matter may be considered Heavy, although hopefully unoffensive! I hope its OK to post this. the perpose of this post is to obtain information on Alternative OBE Methods. use any information posted or replied to here, at your own risk.

As far as I know OOBE'S for the MOST part happen when the physical Body is relaxed; and every OBE. Book i have read provides Techniques that relax the physical Body and Provides Gradual Calm Lift out. But there is another Aspect of OBE. Thats Less Discussed. And thats what i want to talk about here! I have also read that OOBE'S can Happen under Extreme Physical or Emotional Stress and/or Pain. I have read allot of books on OBE, but non of them provide Techniques that involve the way of pain and suffering with the exception of the maldoons thirst technique. The Various articles i have read say that Mild Electric Shocks in cirtan areas of the Body can produce an obe, Also pressure points and wounds in cirtan areas! For example The Native American Tribe Chief that Killed col. Custard and is men. did a vision quest and lacerated his body over 200 times to produce it. I have read that torture stretching has worked. or pricking Cirtan (but Unidentified) bones. but with all this information there is no Written Step by Step Technique that has issued to produce an OBE by the way of pain and suffering! i am sure step by step techniques exist and have been recorded; but no-one touches open it! Grant it any such methods that exist within this category are probably extremely unsafe! And most people would not be crazy or masochistic enough to try them! but regardless of that fact i want to read up on ALL OBE Methods including the less desirable ones! so let me post these questions and feel free to PM. me if you feel uncomfortable posting in reply.  Do you know of any such Methods and what are they? Have you Tried any of these Methods and did they work? Do you know of any reading material; Books, E Books, Articles, journals. that specifically touch upon this subject? i am trying to gather this information for the perpose of research (not Practice) in any regards thanks for reading and Safe Journeys.       

[astral traveler]

inducing pain can sometimes produce deeper sleep states, but it's extremely important to be moderate in this context.  it's best to differentiate between moderate and excessive pain.

for example, moderate pain would include lifting weights at the gym or going for a healthy jog.  healthy bodily training wherein a person fully recovers within three or four days.

excessive pain, on the other hand, would involve inflicting wounds to the body that don't completely heal within three or four days.  excessive pain should be avoided.

hitting oneself over the head with a brick may induce a deep coma, but it's not a healthy or desirable practice.