Phasing while awake

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

Would it be possible to practice the beginning stages of phasing while awake. I can hardly ever stay conscious while going to sleep in a coherent manner but I thought it would be cool to be able to practice some type of phasing while awake other than meditation. I do practice meditation and I think I have a bit of a better grip on consciousness and the functioning of the mind. Thoughts please. Don't worry I don't want to debate this one. LOL

I must say though that I have done what I thought would be the the beginning stages of phasing while fully awake. And in finding out the other day that Bob Monroe use to drill Thomas Campbell on how to phase over and over again brought this thought back up. Now I realize that when he was doing it he was in bed. Anyway thoughts?

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

May I add that I don't think totally phasing while awake is very practical especially for someone like me. I just think it would be a pretty cool exercise to do if it's possible or effective.

[Lionheart]

Would it be possible to practice the beginning stages of phasing while awake.

That's the only time I EVER Phase. I always phase from a consciously aware, totally awake state of mind.

I didn't know there was another way!  

Perhaps we aren't talking abut the same definition of Phasing. This is the one I mean.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq/what_is_phasing_and_how_can_i_do_it-t17413.0.html

[EscapeVelocity]

If I understand you correctly, then yes, certainly some of the more advanced projectors can do this, and even a few naturals I've run into, all women. It may be more a natural talent or refined understanding of the entry sensations and the allowing for them to develop.

Certainly, Szaxx, Lionheart...maybe Volgerie are pretty proficient at this. I think Soarin12 is just about there.

Myself, I am more of the opportunistic type. I've been at this forty years yet I can't produce an exit straight off from a trance session; I have to look for my opportunities: WBTB or early morning or a nap or a hammer against the head, lol.

So, with WBTB I have been awake for 45 minutes and then gone through the hypnogogic stage and 'noticed' until I observed a scene that I could literally step into. Other times, I click out first, and then regain awareness in an obvious 'heightened' state.

So, I work with what I get...

A couple months ago, I rolled over in bed, mid-morning and immediately noticed a spiral tunnel portal...BANG! I dove into it...

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

That's the only time I EVER Phase. I always phase from a consciously aware, totally awake state of mind.

I didn't know there was another way!  

Perhaps we aren't talking abut the same definition of Phasing. This is the one I mean.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq/what_is_phasing_and_how_can_i_do_it-t17413.0.html

Sorry if I wasn't clear but I meant like totally out of bed and during the day being able to exercise the phase.

I have read about Franks type of phasing some years ago. It almost seems to me that regular phasing and Franks type of phasing are about the same except Frank emphases a certain mental technique to obviously achieve the same results. It's almost as if he has perfected the actual heart of astral projection down to the heart of the phase itself. Correct me if I am wrong. Perhaps the type of phasing I am talking about above would be Franks type. The other type of phasing seems to be more general and not as specific in how it's done as Franks. Thoughts?

Thanks for your input EV.

Peace.

[Lionheart]

Sorry if I wasn't clear but I meant like totally out of bed and during the day being able to exercise the phase.

I have read about Franks type of phasing some years ago. It almost seems to me that regular phasing and Franks type of phasing are about the same except Frank emphases a certain mental technique to obviously achieve the same results. It's almost as if he has perfected the actual heart of astral projection down to the heart of the phase itself. Correct me if I am wrong. Perhaps the type of phasing I am talking about above would be Franks type. The other type of phasing seems to be more general and not as specific in how it's done as Franks. Thoughts?

We are still talking about the same thing. Phasing is a simple shift in consciousness from here to there. How you get there is up to you. There are many techniques, To tell you the truth, there are probably just as many threads here based on Phasing as there are "climbing out" of the body per say.

Phasing can be done any time day or night. So, "totally out of bed and during the day" fits the criteria of my definition.

[EscapeVelocity]

No prob Plasma,

I missed the runway and will execute a go-around.

What you appear to be describing is still Phasing, but at a very advanced level, like accidentally phasing while driving your car...whoops!

Again, either natural or well-developed...

Best, EV!

[Lionheart]

Myself, I am more of the opportunistic type. I've been at this forty years yet I can't produce an exit straight off from a trance session; I have to look for my opportunities: WBTB or early morning or a nap or a hammer against the head, lol.

So, with WBTB I have been awake for 45 minutes and then gone through the hypnogogic stage and 'noticed' until I observed a scene that I could literally step into. Other times, I click out first, and then regain awareness in an obvious 'heightened' state.

Escape, I would like to comment on this. This shows me that you have a very hard time of relaxing your mind and body enough to ALLOW the shift to occur. The fact that you can in the morning shows this to be true. In the morning your body is very relaxed and your mind totally clear.

If this was my problem, I would practice progressive relaxation and work on calming my mind further during the day. I would also practice being NP more often. Lastly I would stop saying "can't" and replace that with a positive affirmation.
I use Robert''s affirmation 5 times a day and I find that that kind of "brain entrainment" overcomes all.
You can either repeat it after him from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yra1SQOOuGE
              or
You can go to this link, print it and say it whenever you wish.
http://www.lucid-mind-center.com/robert-monroe-institute.html

[EscapeVelocity]

You are right Lion, I have always had a tough time shutting down. Usually an hour or more to fall asleep.

Affirmations, I have always recognized as a key ingredient, but too often abandon even after initial results.

The Monroe affirmation is just SO long...I mean, I tried it thirty years ago,lol

I will try it again!! Your expertise encourages me! And I need that from time to time! Thank you.

EV

[Lionheart]

I will try it again!! Your expertise encourages me! And I need that from time to time! Thank you.

It's not necessarily expertise, lol. It's more like "stubbornness". 

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

It's not necessarily expertise, lol. It's more like "stubbornness". 

Let me guess that is why your on the forum still commenting? LOL

[Lionheart]

Let me guess that is why your on the forum still commenting? LOL

Actually I posted in this thread because you have been a member here since April 25/2010 and still didn't know what Phasing is. I was flabbergasted by that, lol. What have you been reading all this time?

The first thing I read here was Frank's PDF on Phasing. The next was Xanth's (shortened version) Phasing Primer.

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

Actually I posted in this thread because you have been a member here since April 25/2010 and still didn't know what Phasing is. I was flabbergasted by that, lol. What have you been reading all this time?

The first thing I read here was Frank's PDF on Phasing. The next was Xanth's shorten book version on Phasing.

I read the Frank Kepple's Resource, which I liked a lot. Nobody ever showed me a PDF with Franks phasing. But it's been years since I did read how to do it but not from a PDF. And yes I have read some of Xanths PDF. I have read quite a few books, exerts, and watch videos about astral projection. I admit it's been some time before I've read about the actual techniques of doing projection. But I am still learning. Many here don't know that I deal with some chronic health problems. Including tinnitus and mobility problems right along with some memory problems sometimes, depending. I think two of the the main reasons that I didn't remember is that I haven't been practicing astral projection because of my health problems. Like I told Xanth usually when I go to sleep I can't stay conscious enough to project because of my sleeping medicines. The other reason is that there was some long gaps of not coming here which have caused some of that information to be lost IMO. I can't be that off IMO. I know you probably don't think so. Well can you please sum up phasing for me. I am not up to reading everything in that link you sent?

I'll put it to you like this, I have some moderate level ideas of how to astral project in general.

And don't let the fact that you were "flabbergasted", be the only reason to reply to me or anyone else. Hahaha I've been seeing you on the forums.

[Lionheart]

And don't let the fact that you were "flabbergasted", be the only reason to reply to me or anyone else. Hahaha I've been seeing you on the forums.

I'm confused here, it sounds like you are too.  Am I supposed to be hiding or something? I resigned as Moderator, but I didn't close my account.

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

I'm confused here, it sounds like you are too.   Am I supposed to be hiding or something? I resigned as Moderator, but I didn't close my account.

I assure you that you are reading more into this than I am. I knew that you only resigned as moderator, but didn't close your account. I just got the impression that you wanted to be away from astral pulse more than what I have seen you here to focus on AP. And I was just kind of making a joking about your comment about being flabbergasted to my question of "Let me guess that is why your on the forum still commenting? LOL". I hope you got it now.

[Edit added the LOL got to include that.]

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

I'm confused here, it sounds like you are too.  Am I supposed to be hiding or something? I resigned as Moderator, but I didn't close my account.

I am confused again. IDK I am tried and have to go to bed. I will just say that I didn't think you were hiding something, but I did think that you were ignoring my posts in general for a while perhaps since I tend to debate things and something else. I'm tired got so sleep, good night.

Peace.

[Xanth]

Phasing from an awake state is called phasing through meditation.

[Szaxx]

No prob Plasma,

I missed the runway and will execute a go-around.

What you appear to be describing is still Phasing, but at a very advanced level, like accidentally phasing while driving your car...whoops!

Again, either natural or well-developed...

Best, EV!

It wasnt accidental doh!
Sshhh they'll know the plans to take over everyones mind and rule the world, mawhahahaha.

On a more serious note, has anyone tried to stay physically active when generating a visualisation thats as clear as in a dream?
I had a view of rooftops as in hovering 40feet up 2 nights ago.
Last night I recreated the image and scratched an itch without it fading. Im sure I could have spoke too, I was that awake. The houses were not stone like those locally and the area was very flat too. I live in a hilly area, the nearest flat place is 20 miles or so away.
None of this originally was created, it appeared out of nowhere and very early into phasing.

[soarin12]

Certainly, Szaxx, Lionheart...maybe Volgerie are pretty proficient at this. I think Soarin12 is just about there.

I almost always project from a conscious state.  However, I almost always have had some amount of sleep within 4 hours of projecting, and I ALWAYS do it lying down.  Trying it sitting up and without any sleep within 4 hrs. prior, are not anything I would even bother with because for me it makes it soooo much harder.

[Lionheart]

  Trying it sitting up and without any sleep within 4 hrs. prior, are not anything I would even bother with because for me it makes it soooo much harder.

This is why Tom Campbell always stresses the importance of not getting stuck using the same "tool" or technique.

Once again, it's easier said than done though. 

I find it always keeps this practice "new" when we become more flexible with our own methodology.