Listening method works somewhat

[spirited away]

I have read a previous post by a member here using the listening method to project.  I thought I give it a try.  The method is rather easy to do, all you have to do is listen to your breathing, snoring (if you do) or inner wind (ringing within your ear). I have tried the breathing method once and I almost completely projected.  I felt a helper's hand pull me up and away.  But, I could not retain enough consciousness to stay awake and fell back into my body.  There was no vibration, which usually helps to awaken me enough to concentrate.  Tried listening to my inner wind on the second try. With same results, no vibration to waken me.  Helper's hand led me for a while and fell back to sleep.  I would say the listening method works somewhat for me but I'm used to having vibration to awaken me.  I think I will give it a few more tries before switching back to noticing.

[Bedeekin]

I use this method but I use a mantra. which is essentially meditation. I don't listen to tinnitus or my breathing. I try to ignore both as they are products of physical body functions.

Instead of listening or taking note of your bodies processes... (something of which you should do more often when awake) try creating a noise or a sound in your head. Repeat the sound, name or phrase repeatedly. Try to hear it... as if it were being spoken.

If your mind wanders off... bring your focus back to the task of focusing on the imagined sound. Each time your mind wanders... bring it back to the task. Have no other motive or thought than doing this. Dont pay any attention to your surroundings... your body... just creating the sound.

Each successive time you bring your mind back to the focus of the task... the closer you will get to flipping your conscious awareness to the non-physical. It is very much like the sensation of suddenly waking up from a snooze you shouldnt be having in class or whilst in a car... that jolt awake. The difference is that you wont jolt awake... but you will instead be woken in that familiar state you talk about.

[spirited away]

That is a great idea! I will give it a try.  BTW which mantra you use?  I will research what mantra is.  I'm always interested in trying different methods to project.  I don't think there is a best method, just which method works best for each individual.

I use this method but I use a mantra. which is essentially meditation. I don't listen to tinnitus or my breathing. I try to ignore both as they are products of physical body functions.

Instead of listening or taking note of your bodies processes... (something of which you should do more often when awake) try creating a noise or a sound in your head. Repeat the sound, name or phrase repeatedly. Try to hear it... as if it were being spoken.

If your mind wanders off... bring your focus back to the task of focusing on the imagined sound. Each time your mind wanders... bring it back to the task. Have no other motive or thought than doing this. Dont pay any attention to your surroundings... your body... just creating the sound.

Each successive time you bring your mind back to the focus of the task... the closer you will get to flipping your conscious awareness to the non-physical. It is very much like the sensation of suddenly waking up from a snooze you shouldnt be having in class or whilst in a car... that jolt awake. The difference is that you wont jolt awake... but you will instead be woken in that familiar state you talk about.

[Bedeekin]

What Mantra do I use? That's my business and has nothing to do with you!!!



Seriously though I might as well say that... because the actual mantra is totally unimportant. I used to use my name 'Benjamin' and often told people to do the same... purely because it is a word everyone hears.. and really means nothing. This moved on to counting slowly... 1 through to 10... saying the words in my head and only being concerned about the task.. when I found my mind wandering and bring the task back to hand that would spring my focus into the non-physical. I then found out that I simply had to 'listen'... listen for the state change. I recognised it instantly because noises would take on a life of their own and I would perceive little rumbling sensations in my ear... it just takes a gentle push to bring on the state. I also would sometimes imagine a conversation... as though I could hear it through a thick wall... and that I was trying to listen to what they were saying... suddenly the voices would become very loud = rumbling = SP.

What I have read in MBT and what Transcendental Meditation also says is to use a word that consists of a few syllables. Be-rahh-nung.... va-ra-voom... plink-plank-plong... etc... they also advise using a resonant last syllable... like nin, oom, aang, ong.. after finding this info out I realised I had been accidentally doing this with my name Ben-ja-min.

Tom Campbell also adds that as a way of maintaining focus....

"For a multi syllable repetitive string (chant), try: "ah-lum-bar-de-dum" - "ah-lum-baa-de-dum." When the "bar" and the "baa" regularly interchange themselves effortlessly, you will be well on your way"

[spirited away]

great info and knowlege, thank you kindly.  What do you think of "Boom chika wow wow" I'm gonna use that phrase

What Mantra do I use? That's my business and has nothing to do with you!!!



Seriously though I might as well say that... because the actual mantra is totally unimportant. I used to use my name 'Benjamin' and often told people to do the same... purely because it is a word everyone hears.. and really means nothing. This moved on to counting slowly... 1 through to 10... saying the words in my head and only being concerned about the task.. when I found my mind wandering and bring the task back to hand that would spring my focus into the non-physical. I then found out that I simply had to 'listen'... listen for the state change. I recognised it instantly because noises would take on a life of their own and I would perceive little rumbling sensations in my ear... it just takes a gentle push to bring on the state. I also would sometimes imagine a conversation... as though I could hear it through a thick wall... and that I was trying to listen to what they were saying... suddenly the voices would become very loud = rumbling = SP.

What I have read in MBT and what Transcendental Meditation also says is to use a word that consists of a few syllables. Be-rahh-nung.... va-ra-voom... plink-plank-plong... etc... they also advise using a resonant last syllable... like nin, oom, aang, ong.. after finding this info out I realised I had been accidentally doing this with my name Ben-ja-min.

Tom Campbell also adds that as a way of maintaining focus....

"For a multi syllable repetitive string (chant), try: "ah-lum-bar-de-dum" - "ah-lum-baa-de-dum." When the "bar" and the "baa" regularly interchange themselves effortlessly, you will be well on your way"

[Bedeekin]

haha... nice. It's perfect.