Dream Justice

[David Warner]

Ap Friends,

Here's an article that I was reading today in CNN. Most of you probably have already seen this but thought it would be a great topic for discussion. It definitely reminds me of the movie "Ghost" and how at the end justice is served. Definitely makes you wonder!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/02/10/political.whodunit.ap/index.html

CNN:
More than five years ago, Rod Spraggins made a sensational charge at a candidate forum, publicly accusing a political opponent of murder with nothing to back up the allegation except, it turns out, a vision.

Now police say Spraggins was right.

Barry Waites, Spraggins' opponent in the 2000 race for Lanett City Council, was arrested this week on murder charges in the 1998 slaying of his wife, who was found dead in their split-level home in this sleepy town of 8,000 along the Georgia line.

In 2002, Spraggins, a bail bondsman, stunned a crowd of 100 when he accused Waites of killing his wife and dared the man to sue him for slander if he was wrong.

Waites was not at the forum, never responded publicly to the accusation and never sued.

In an otherwordly turn to the saga Friday, Spraggins disclosed that he never had any evidence to make the accusation and that it was based entirely on Mrs. Waites' appearing to him in a series of dreams.

"She started appearing to me within the first weeks of her death," said Spraggins, adding that the dreams prompted him to enter the City Council race for the sole purpose of making the accusation.

Both he and Waites lost their bids for the City Council amid the controversy, but Spraggins said he got what he wanted in the end.

"I hate it for his family. ... I hate it for Charlotte's family. But I'm glad justice is finally going to be served," he said in a telephone interview.

Waites, 58, was arrested Thursday at a clothing store he runs with his current wife. He was jailed on $150,000 bail. It was not immediately known whether he had hired a lawyer.

Police Chief Ron Docimo would not comment on exactly what led to the arrest, saying only that it was a "culmination of years of following up on leads and tips."

Waites was serving as interim mayor when 49-year-old Charlotte Waites was found strangled and with a blow to the head.

The victim's brother, Gene Brown, said police told him within a week of the slaying that Waites was the prime suspect.

Brown said that the couple had numerous financial problems during their 28-year marriage and that he believes an argument over money resulted in her death.

In 2002, Waites was sentenced to six months in jail after pleading guilty in an ethics case that was uncovered during an investigation of his wife's killing. He admitted taking money from a National Guard armory where he worked.

Brown credited Spraggins with keeping up public pressure on police to solve the murder case.

"Rod had it pegged from the beginning," Brown said. "I had doubts about his methods. But he's got guts."

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The few things that I would like to point out are:

1. For all we know that this Spraggins could have witnessed this or been in on it for $$ Also, someone could have said something that clicked with Spraggins to make the call.

2. If this is 100% legit - cool and justice is definitely served! Something that has tangible proof and people will recognize this as a *positive* message from the dream/oobe state.

You be the judge! - Lets just hope we don't hear a revision to this story that changes the truth..:)

Tvos

[PatternsComingToLife]

Tvos:

No offense or anything dude - but come on, let's get real here!

If this is 100% legit - cool and justice is definitely served! Something that has tangible proof and people will recognize this as a *positive* message from the dream/oobe state.

First off, nothing is ever 100%. Also, if you think for a second anyone is even going to remember this story in a few weeks time, I respectfully call your bluff.

It's in the news now because it's new and interesting. It makes you think; makes for good news. But the novelty will soon wear off.

[David Warner]

PatternsComingToLife,


Welcome to the forum...:)

I know nothing is ever 100% and its good to judge the story - hence our discussion. The important key to this is that "justice" was served and the communication was thru the dream.

Its a good post, room for discussion and for validation. Lets talk some more about this indepth and find out the other evidence that people have reported about crimes, murders etc...

Tvos

[PatternsComingToLife]

Tvos:

Thank you for the welcome

That's how you see it, that "justice was served." I don't necessarily agree with you but I don't disagree either. I don't pay much attention to anything that took place in the past to begin with, and I certainly don't draw conclusions from it and then form a judgment in the "now" moment. I don't see the point to it.

That's how I see it, anyhow. Each to his or her own, of course.

Neat story I guess, but sort of a dime-a-dozen one. I personally get bored reading them. I believe this stuff happens all the time. I know others may disagree with me, that's cool.

Peace.

[Stookie]

Something that came to me while reading this story was the number of TV shows on now that have to do with psychics helping detectives solve crimes, like "Ghost Whisperer" (JLH is not a convincing psychic) and the one with Patricia Arquette (can't think of it). Without this kind of popularity, news sources might not even mention the dream aspect of it.

Also, this guy explained the dream thing after the guy was arrested. He may have just had a hunch. I bet a lot of people thought it was the husband. He sounds like the most obvious. And then when they say he's arrested, it's "I knew it, she came to me in dreams". And no one questions it because it's a popular topic now.

If he talked about the dreams earlier, it would be more believable. But like you say, he'd probably be accused of being in on it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[David Warner]

I thought the article said that right after the death the wife started communicating to the guy. He then ran for mayor against the other guy who murdered his wife then openly acknowledged the association with the dream communication, then later on (years down the road) they finally arrest him. Did I miss something here or was I reading it incorrectly?

Anyways, shows on tv like what you said Stookie are okay, make you wonder but its tailored towards hollywood and to sell the novelty.

I do believe justice was served because they finally caught the killer. If justice was not served then the killer would have gotten away with murder.

Tvos

[Stookie]

I thought the article said that right after the death the wife started communicating to the guy. He then ran for mayor against the other guy who murdered his wife then openly acknowledged the association with the dream communication, then later on (years down the road) they finally arrest him. Did I miss something here or was I reading it incorrectly?

It was right after the death he says she came to him in dreams and he made the accusation at that time. But he didn't mention the dreams until last Friday, after the fact:

In an otherwordly turn to the saga Friday, Spraggins disclosed that he never had any evidence to make the accusation and that it was based entirely on Mrs. Waites' appearing to him in a series of dreams.

So I'm totally on the fence. If it was a dream, it's pretty cool. If it was a hunch he's calling a dream... well, he is a politician.

[David Warner]

Stookie,

If the guy actually had the dreams after the death and before coming out then great, but it doesn't give much weight after the fact it happened and out in the open.

Tvos

[Sepultura123]

At least justice was right. I dont mind if its a lie or not im happy that the murder has been found.