Dreams and the reality it exists in.

[Mr.PumperNickle]

Do dreams exist physically within our minds, like does the brain create the dream world and characters and we experience this phenomenon within our very own heads. Or is there some type of metaphysics someone has to explain to me on how dreams are on a higher frequency than the physical reality?

[CFTraveler]

Or is there some type of metaphysics someone has to explain to me on how dreams are on a higher frequency than the physical reality?

No metaphysics are necessary to conceive of the idea that dreams are not stored in the physical part of the brain- studies conducted on the brain may show that memories are stored holographically and possibly nonlocally- the brain does do the storing, but it is possible that the storage happens in the gaps between the neurons, in some sort of a field.

The last thing I've read about this seemed to indicate this because of the way the brain seems to take apart memories and store them, using different pathways for storage than are used for retrieval, and also because when parts of the brain become damaged the patient seems to lose the memories but then as different pathways are grown or rerouted, sometimes the memories come back, showing that even though the pathways are used for storage and retrieval they themselves are not 'where' they are- like I/O busses in a computer, if you think about it.

[Rudolph]

showing that even though the pathways are used for storage and retrieval they themselves are not 'where' they are

The really amazing datum in all this is they can surgically remove half the brain of a 60 year old and he still has detailed recall of that baseball game he went to with his dad when he was seven years old. And everything else too. Completely normal memory and recall.

*That* one has the neurologists scratching their heads. 

Obviously memory can no longer be reasonably postulated as residing 'within' the confines of the cranial grey matter.

[linemile]

This is the same basic question that I've had since I started researching Astral Projection and the like. Are your astral experiences based in a holographic universe of your mind's design, with all the interaction between you and your environment being subconscious and self-contained? Or, when you astral project, do you move your consciousness not inwards, but upwards, into a literal different plane of existence that contains other people and an environment that is not produced by your subconscious mind?

What are the differences between the two? And if astral experiences are made on one of these two levels, in a space where reality is changed so easily, how can you tell?

[Rudolph]

I think you must move well beyond the astral in order to put a valid "reality index" measurement of any kind on the astral interactions.

Since 99% of APers do not ever manage this level of perception they are lost in a confused mass of theories

But just fyi...

It is ALL "inward"

There is no actual "travel" outward or *projection* to another point in space going on...

It is all 'within'.

To say that 'space' or 'Time' is an illusion is a bit misleading... but the ability to perceive across space is elementary and very doable.

Very few can reach the True Astral and fewer still, beyond that ... so no meaningful discussion of any of it can really take place.

[Volgerle]

Do dreams exist physically within our minds, like does the brain create the dream world and characters and we experience this phenomenon within our very own heads. Or is there some type of metaphysics someone has to explain to me on how dreams are on a higher frequency than the physical reality?

For me, rather than solely reverting to metaphysical speculations, we can also find some evidence in the field paranormal research. Dream precognition (said to be one of the most common psi event at all!), shared dreams /  dream telepathy or APers meeting "dreamers" (with the dreamers also remembering the 'encounter'!) .... this all hints to dreams as a (literally) 'transcendent' phenomenon. There might be "private" "area" for personal processing as well as 'public' access or 'intruders' into your private space. Still, it is much more 'open' then normal people would like to think. Same with just "thoughts", if you think they are all 'private' and no being can 'read' or experience them, you might be greatly mistaken.

[Mr.PumperNickle]

There is no space and time relative to the "non physical" (higher frequency) reality. Einstein realized that time doesn't exist, I am starting to wonder weather or not time exists also . On the other hand, space will be an illusion (even if it be a stubborn one) that I believe exists untill the day I die. My mind literally cannot interpret this "reality" or other "realities" being without space.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Try to look at it from a different perspective.
In this physical reality we have the 3 dimensions and to travel from one point to another requires a transitional space during this journey. We call this time and as our life here isnt infinite it exists relative to our perception of our relativity or lifetime. Its a luxurybitem of sorts.
This explains only the 3 dimensions x,y and z often referred to. There is another that you go to unconciously most nights. It could be explained better by calling it the in and out dimension to reduce confusion. Daytime you are out of it and while sleeping or travelling you are in it. Depending on the amount you have phased into it determines the perception witnessed.if fully phased the physical is totally out of sync and most of the physics that rule it are too. It has many properties that the human mind has still yet to grasp the basics of. The one we all struggle with is the memory of our experience within it . As we develop our 'astral' outings we begin to see more and our understanding grows exponentially. Eventually we all end up there to learn again with a new set of rules.
Interesting thought.