Dry Spell

[David Warner]

Ap Friends,

For this last year now, I've projected 7-12 times a month w/o fail. A few dry spells here and there, but lately I don't know what is up!

First month of April I was sick for 1 week and recovered the second, but ready to obe. Going into the third week, I question. Not like I'm not trying but to me this is weird. I know after I write this tonight I will project, but I wanted to find out from you folks that are regular projectionists whats the longest dry spell.

Tvos

[Token]

I'll sometimes I'll have very long dry spells, maybe 6 months without a single OBE.  It's terribly frustrating.  Actually I just had a recent dry spell which lasted way too long and one of the reasons I post on this forum is because I know that discussing and thinking about OBEs on a regular basis are one of the best ways to break a dry spell and it seems to be working.  I had an OBE a week ago, short but satisfying.  When I'm not in a dry spell I can have 3-5 good OBEs a month which is very nice.  Also the more I project the longer they are so it really helps to try and keep up the frequency.

[stephen~]

My dry spell has gone on for over a year. I've been projecting since the late 80s, and I have prgoressively found it harder. In the first 5 years or so there were periods when I would vibe night after night. I reckon I was having vibes 7 nights out of 10. If I thought about projection during the day that would trigger something that night for sure. I could feel my astral body, or whatever it was during the day just by thinking about it. I remember being at a traffic junction once waiting to pull out, for some reason projection popped into my mind and I felt myself 'shifting' even then. Even as recently as 2 years ago I could lay on the sofa for half an hour and have six sets of vibes in a row, frustratingly though it has become harder and harder to project from them however many there are.

There were periods of nothing of course, usually weeks or a few months.

Today I rarely get vibes at all, and like Token there, I believe that coming here and talking about it, and keeping it in your mind helps to trigger it, so for me too it is one of the main reasons why I come here.

I wonder if it is possible that we are all affected, that there's a stellar, lunar or electromagnetic reason that we have these periods? Would be a bit frustrating if AP was affected by periods of sunspot activity or some such thing, wouldn't it!

[Nay]

I don't call them dry spells...there are some days I just don't feel the pull.  

That is one misconception I've noticed.  People new to astral projection or who haven't had one yet seem to think the minute they master the art that they will want to fly around all the time.. it just doesn't work that way, at least for me it hasn't.

I'm perfectly happy not having a experience for how ever long it takes.  I know I will when something comes up... like a problem I need to work out or a loved one wants to visit...etc.

[Stookie]

During OBE dry spells I tend to focus on other things like doing extra energy exercises and meditation, or physical activities. I still feel like I'm moving forward, so it's only one aspect of my development that's "dry". I tend to have long periods between OBE's, but I rarely go 2 weeks without some sort of vision/sight/dream which helps keep me motivated.

[Nay]

I dream everyday!  I was talking more in lines with conscious projection.  I also think it's healthy to take care of everyday life and not just eat, breath for the astral.

[MisterJingo]

Dry spells have lasted up to a year, but during them I usually am not attempting to OBE, I don't meditate or do energy work. During these spells I am usually caught up in 'mundane reality' and so i don't seem to have many experiences.
I'm mainly to blame for this, as when I do meditate regularly, do energy work consistenctly etc I can project quite regularly. I guess I've get a bit blase about the whole experience, so i'm not driven to it like I once was.
This doesn't stop me philsophising and exploring other avenues though:)

Ps: My dreams are always pretty vivid and involving each night -even during 'OBE dry spells' - sometimes too much so. Such as last night, i feel like I've hardly slept due to the realism of my dream - it was like I was actually 'there'.

[schotzi]

I have had dry spells for, I would say, several months - like 6-8 or so.

But then they start again without me trying - like several spontaneous OBEs in a weekend. Which gets me in the "trying" mode again.

Even if I have a dry spell I still don't "FORGET" about it.

I "live" a paranormal life.....I drive a truck (night time route) so I listen to Coast to Coast radio program 5 nights a week so I never escape the "paranormal" mindset.

[Stookie]

I dream everyday!  I was talking more in lines with conscious projection.  I also think it's healthy to take care of everyday life and not just eat, breath for the astral.

I don't mean dreaming is a substitute for OBE's. I guess what I mean is keeping a balance, not focusing on OBE's as the only source of personal spiritual progress. In this sense, I have no dry spells, as there are many other places to learn from, including in physical reality.

It's been a long time since I felt frustrated from a lack of OBE's even though weeks can come between them.

[David Warner]

Nay,

I agree with you 100% on what you said about people who've mastered their first OBE think they got it licked. Its just so not that easy and takes a great, great deal of time,energy, patience and commitment. I've been so lucky that this last year my experiences have been every week and with a few dry spells in-between. But this one I question and do worry. I know its just a matter of time before I get back into the swing again. If it was due to me being sick and recovering a week later it would make sense. I just wonder about the energy and how much was really drained from me being sick?

Anyways, I've found meditation and listening to Anugama "Shamanic Dream" before going to bed relaxing and energetic, but it puts me down. This is the only variable I've really changed is meditating with the music.

Stephen,

How much have you done in the lines of tracking? Meditation, dream recall, food intake, exercise, validations etc? Maybe its the fear of not projecting that is limiting?

The only way I can see around this dry spell is the alarm clock method. Setting the clock to go off at different minute intervals which is a good way to induce false awakenings and projections. The tough part of it is the discipline of this method.

Tvos

[Nay]

Referring to the sick part, it depends on the sickness, well with my experiences it does.   I seem to project almost spontaneously if I have a fever.  I have no idea about the energy part, I've never gave it much thought.

Now a headache....a whole new bag of tators.  I can not handle having headaches, I can't concentrate and all I can do is rock back and forth while lying down on my side.  It sounds weird but it puts me into some trance and helps with the pain.  Thank goodness that has only happened a few times in my life.

I'm sure you will start projecting again.  Just take this time to reflect on what has happened in the past few months....then get ready for a whole new set of reflections.  

Take Care,
Nay

[CFTraveler]

When healthy I OB twice a month.  The longest dry spell since I've learned to consciously project was a whole month- but I was sick for a week, and caring for my sick family for another week. I believe I complained about it on these forums- but then they came back again, right on schedule.  

[David Warner]

Nay,

I actually had a headache some weeks back and was able to project. Not the pleasant experience but it happened.

The only thing that I can recall this week is towards the end of a dream, I can remember talking about astral projection, bragging and that I was a know it all. Coming back to the physical waking life, I felt bad and embarrassed.

Tvos

[David Warner]

Ap Friends,

Well, the dry spell is still dry.. But I've had a validation this morning. I was in a dream/trance state and once again my wife came into the room, we talked and crawled into bed. Seconds later broke and my wife was (physically) over me talking to me and crawling into bed.

So I guess this could count as a validation and trance psychic experience. I am at least making the connection. There's been a few other prior experiences this last month but not the typical Conscious Projection.

The first/Second week of April I was sick and recovering. So far the third week of April I've pulled 60hrs at work and going into the fourth week I will be worknig 50hrs. So I guess that these are some good reasons for my dry spell.

Tvos

[greytraveler]

The posts in this topic tend to reinforce the ideas that
1) there is a wide range of OBEs/projections per given time period and that frequency depends on the individual involved,
and
2) those people who practice and consciously work at trying to induce OBEs/projections experience them more often then people who do not practice.
Personally I have had two dry spells since I began conscious deliberate OBEs/projections eleven years ago. I went over a full year between January 2001 and May 2002 without a projection. And a recent OBE about 2 weeks ago (which I will post here soon) broke another dry spell of about a year (March 2005). The recent OBE was only my second since early 2004 and I was becoming concerned that something was obstructing my ability to project  :exclamation:

[David Warner]

Greytraveler,

I started to realize that 60hrs of a work week and being sick in the month of april for two weeks really didn't help. Even though I haven't had my traditional conscious waking astral projection, I've had false awakening, another trance validation with my wife coming into the bedroom in the astral and then waking up to physical the scene repeating. Not to mention that on a few other occasions I've had where I thought that I was clear seeing thru my eye-lids or telling people about astral projection.

I've documented this and its a definite good sign and positive outlook. As I said, I am so use to projecting at least 1-2 times a week, 7-12 times a month it kinda of took me by surprise. Another learning experience and which I also added to my FAQs on my site is that "advanced projectionists" also have their dry spells too!

I know its just a matter of time when I have the conscious projection its going to be sweet! Believe me this was probably one of the toughest and hardest month with what I've put into trying to project.

tvos

[greytraveler]

Voice of Silence
You have have a good attitude. Don't worry about the dry spell. As you mentioned there are many other competing thoughts and intentions that could be impinging upon your conscious and unconscious desire to project.
The mental attitude toward OBEs/projection is somewhat tricky. Certainly I do not understand it very well. When I truly wish to have an OBE nothing happens. Then a few months later, when I don't expect anything, I find myself either already spontaneously OOB or in a pre-projection situation (strong vibrations, sleep paralysis et al). Maybe one day I will be able to go OOB at will. Yet there are very few people as advanced, skillful (or fortunate) as Robert Bruce, William Buhlman or Robert Monroe.

[David Warner]

well, dry spell over now! back to work! hehe

actually, i was able to project this morning with the vibes, and found myself at my mom/dads house. went out to the front yard and laid on the grass feeling the blades poke into my back. it was a clear sunny beautiful day.

the one thing i did notice on the lawn was a plastic grocery bag with a folder in it. holding papers that appeared to be for some assignment. there were other pieces of debris on the lawn too - deodorant which I actually tried underneath my arm (that's the first in the astral).

anyways, when I had finally returned back to my body. i contacted my dad and asked if he could look outside the front door onto the lawn. he did say there was a piece of plastic ripped along with a whiskey bottle, and some other pieces of debris. interesting huh!

In the month of April I've had three validations. - guess something good came out of my dry spell.


oobe counter 4/28/05 - 4/28/06
Misc Experiences: 17
Lucid Dream to Projection: 17
False Awakenings: 11
Conscious Astral Projections: 54
Validations: 11
Tot: 100


tvos

[GANAMOHA]

well lets see my longest dry spell was hmmmm my whole life, lol.

[David Warner]

GANAMOHA,

Have you been trying to practice AP or are you a new-comer to astral projection?

tvos

[jub jub]

If I sleep on the couch I find that I can get vibrations almost every time. Now my biggest problem seems to be getting out. I feel stuck all the time and it's such an effort to move. I usually just wave an astral hand because that's all I can do.

It's very frustrating for sure but what's a person to do? :dont-know:

I'm still pretty new at this but to answer your question, about a week.

[David Warner]

jub jub,

just try and imagine yourself rolling around in circles like a log or crunched up into a ball. when you spin quickly then make your exit by flying out. most of the time, i just roll right off the bed and onto the floor hearing a loud thump!

tvos

[jub jub]

jub jub,

just try and imagine yourself rolling around in circles like a log or crunched up into a ball. when you spin quickly then make your exit by flying out. most of the time, i just roll right off the bed and onto the floor hearing a loud thump!

tvos

I  tried the rolling out technique a while back and I felt like I was glued to the couch! I gave up in frustration and sat up and then proceeded to walk all the time not knowing I was OBE! lol

Last night I tried spinning around like a log but that didn't get me anywhere! I stopped spinning and tried the rope pull. I saw my astral hands grabbing for the rope but alas, no joy.

I have some issues at the moment I have to work through as I suppose we all do from time to time. I'm not going to let it bother me, after all, this is somewhat of a curiosity more than anything else.

It's fun just to come here and read what others are doing or not doing.

[David Warner]

jub jub,

Everyone has their technique on exiting, what works for one might not do justice for the other.

My second projection when it occurred 19yrs ago I was laying on my stomach. I can remember my mom calling me for church and then I fell back to sleep. I quickly entered the trance state and knew what was happening. I took to it like it was second nature and was laying on my stomach. All I did was lift upwards with a turn floating towards the door and out of the room.

Flash forward 19yrs later, I've found that if I'm in the vibrational phase of the projection. I will feel and let the vibrations increase which will anchor me deeper into that state. Once I know for a fact that my body is deep, relaxed and the vibes are running up and down my body its time to exit.

Patience and excitement too holds the key. Try to maintain a passive approach while in that state, the easier the exit.

Hopefully, this will help you and others get closer to a cleaner exit. Well, rolling out of the bed is not a clean way to project, but its a separation..:)

tvos

[jub jub]

Thanks for the help and advice Tvos!

I'm sure it was just a misalignment of the planets! Tonight I'll try again, and if I have to, I'll just stand up and walk!