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T.L.

Laid down the vibrations started. I rolled over onto my side to get more comfortable. The vibrations kicked in again and I felt that intense motion feel like riding down a steep roller coaster. I realized I Went back to the Village in 1996. I seen a lot of old friends in the way they looked when they were around 14 years old. I seen my Mom back then. It was such a surreal experience everyone was a completely different person than they are now. As I walked around I could not believe I was actually there seeing everything I haven't seen since I was 14. I seen two of my old friends LS and BM running around with two of my ex's on their back, laughing and just having fun. I laughed to myself thinking yeah you think you got them now but in a year from now I get them both [in bed]. I was seeing a day in which I was not around (physically must of been at home that day).

    My aunt lived in the village though and my mom would always drive down to hang out. Everything was so right I mean I haven't seen what any of my friends looked like at that age since I was that age, so when I first seen them in this obe I almost couldn't recognize them then it hit me who they were and at what age heh. I felt bad though both of them are no longer my friends in the physical. Staring at them was odd though knowing all that I know now, that we wont be friends and what happens to them both... it is kind of sad that they were so free spirited not knowing just what kind of messed up stuff lays beyond them. In the moment I wished I was able to materialize myself there to take a picture of them, however I just knew it was wishful thinking... but at least I got this experience. It's so odd not knowing where and when I'll end of when attempting to obe.

  Not all the time but at least half that time that is a genuine concern, but Im glad it happened this time. Even if I could of somehow relayed a message to them, I knew that they would never have believed me about what goes on in their lives later. I spent a few minutes at my aunts place looking at my cousins, my aunt, my mother and just how young they looked 13 years ago is astonishing huge differences. Then I sat up in the physical as the experience was slipping. 

[note: I realized what I wanted to do, my objective but the importance of it seemed to pale in comparison to the importance of what I was experiencing at the time. It was the first time I ended up back in time]

T.L.

ahhh crap. This morning I made a good obe attempt. I felt fine to separate and I sat up, only to realize I physically sat up. I laid down to attempt again and fell asleep. Later when I woke up I realized that in fact I had separated when I sat up and I just thought I was physical because of how detailed everything was, like I was wearing the same things I was when I went to bed..etc. From my perspective I felt so physical no way I wasnt, there was no doubt in my mind. I need to make myself question things a bit more so I wont miss out on opportunities.

Greytraveller

T.L.
Those people that you saw in the OBE, were those the astral/ethereal bodies/consciousness of your family and friends? Did you interact with any of them? I ask because it appears a bit "Coincidental" that all those people were having a shared OBE back in the year 1996.
So not to be too bizarre but I would posit the chance that you either visited a shared dream that all of those people (or most of them) were having. OR (a far more bizarre possibility) would have been that you "visited" an alternate universe.)
btw I have trouble getting my head around the idea of time travel (in an OBE or otherwise.) I don't deny the possibility of it taking place. It's just the only way that I can conceive of it happening is for it to occur in an alternate universe. That way going back in time will not change anything in the present. Make sense????
Regards :-) :?
Grey

T.L.

  Yeah I never believed in time travel either. In a way you can say I don't believe in the concept of "time" as some kind of force that can be manipulated or changed. There is a saying "Time is run of the clock", meaning it's just a subjective measurement that we can relate to. There are some experiments though that say time exists. like two atomic clocks are in sync, one is taken high up and the other stays on earth. When compared the one that stayed on earths ground was ahead of the one taken up, pointing to the conclusion that time moves slower the further you are from gravity... but I think there are other possible explanations to this. To me it seems an assumption to say time as some kind of field exists. I think the only way this will be proven to me in the physical is if there is a device that is created that slows it down in a provable kind of way, possibly using stop watches or otherwise.

"Did you interact with any of them?"

No they could not see me just like in the obes I have in the here and now. The whole thing rather surprised me as I really dont believe in such a thing as a "Time" field. Who knows I could be wrong but Id like to see some actual experiment down on the ground that proves it, even better a device that proves it. One idea that seems to appeal to me, and scares me at the same time is the possibility that all events on earth goes in a infinite loop. From beginning to end over and over, and that no matter what we do we just get sucked into it time and time again [as a different person each time]. For this to happen there would have to be alternate realities/universes/dimensions, in which all possible scenarios/eras of life on earth are all being played at once all the time. For this to happen I dont think there would need to be "time" fields. Who knows just my thoughts.

  All I know objectively is that I was standing in Gill Village and I could see my friends playing, and members of my family as well going about their business. Also everything there was how it was in reality during that time. They could not see me and my younger physical self was not present, but there were plenty of days when I would have not of been there anyway. Which is unfortunate because it would of been interesting to see my younger self from a third person perspective.

Greytraveller

T.L., your quote
QuoteOne idea that seems to appeal to me, and scares me at the same time is the possibility that all events on earth goes in a infinite loop. From beginning to end over and over, and that no matter what we do we just get sucked into it time and time again [as a different person each time].

Yes ! I have read of that concept before as well. The Russian mystic P D Ouspensky posited that concept in one of his books. His idea was that there are three dimensions of space (up-down, right-left and forward-back) AND there are also 3 corresponding dimensions of time. He believed at that the moment that each person died then he or she was Instantly reborn at the exact same moment and location where they had been born before, an infinite loop as it were.
This idea is So Far out of the norm that it freaks me out more than a little!  :-o
Anyway, though I see no evidential data to support this particular theory I Do believe that there are many hidden mysteries inherent in the concept of time which we have yet to discover.  :wink:
Regards  8-)
Grey

T.L.

QuoteThis idea is So Far out of the norm that it freaks me out more than a little!  shocked

So far everything I experienced points me to that belief, I don't necessarily think you're born the same person as you were before though. I have memories of doing things in places I've never been and in times long past long before I was born into this life.  However from everything I've experienced it seems it all boils down to infinity. There are an infinite number of parallel earths you can be born into in an infinite number of ways. It also reminds me of the search for the building blocks to atoms ---> then neutrons ---> then quarks ---> ??? In my theory it would be impossible to find the building blocks to matter as there are none. Each time they think they have found them they see that its just empty space with another particle inside. However in my theory it will just go on and on and on and on and on, until we are no longer capable of looking any further. Like putting a mirror up to another mirror so you see an endless tunnel of mirrors, it will be like this except at a subatomic level.

   Conversely it will be same thing the bigger you go galaxy with nothing but mostly empty space with planets/stars/moons inside then onto another then another then another. It seems there is no end either way you go.  If that is the case and it's infinite, there is a chance no matter what we do we will get sucked into the physical over and over [eventually], even if it's not by choice. The prospect of this scares the crap out of me, but look on the bright side by the next life we would have all forgotten about this conversation. Like a fish passing by the same castle each time, yet their memory is so short they think it's a new one each time. It's ironic, but still scary.