Title: Energy Raising For APing--Newbie Questions
Post by: Zarklon on December 02, 2002, 22:38:12
Post by: Zarklon on December 02, 2002, 22:38:12
I'll go ahead and summarize the basic questions hidden in that bunched up text =P
I'm not sure how to raise energy though .. is it through visualization? Or is it through feeling parts of your body like .. trying to feel your toes. . then bringing that awareness to your angles .. , shins .. knees .. thighs .. and higher ? Is that all you do really is focus on those parts of your body and your energy will start moving in your body?
What energy raising technique usually works best and what sensations do/should you get ?
How do I raise energy for astral projection specifically.
How do I raise energy or use energy for making Ki or Psi balls ? And how is it done , if anyone happends to know. I've read somethings on the net but I dont understand what , "Imagine your energy going into your hands" means.. visualize it ? or use body awareness for it !?
Thanks
I'm not sure how to raise energy though .. is it through visualization? Or is it through feeling parts of your body like .. trying to feel your toes. . then bringing that awareness to your angles .. , shins .. knees .. thighs .. and higher ? Is that all you do really is focus on those parts of your body and your energy will start moving in your body?
What energy raising technique usually works best and what sensations do/should you get ?
How do I raise energy for astral projection specifically.
How do I raise energy or use energy for making Ki or Psi balls ? And how is it done , if anyone happends to know. I've read somethings on the net but I dont understand what , "Imagine your energy going into your hands" means.. visualize it ? or use body awareness for it !?
Thanks
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Title: Energy Raising For APing--Newbie Questions
Post by: Tisha on December 03, 2002, 06:37:37
Post by: Tisha on December 03, 2002, 06:37:37
OK, here is a taste of reality according to tish:
Raise your energy levels by getting some SLEEP. Actually, get a LOT of sleep. Most people fall asleep during OBE attempts because they don't have enough energy to stay awake.
Energy raising activities - - visualizing cones of power, psi balls, NEW, etc., are good exercises . . . sort of like working out in the gym. They are very important! But remember, they use up energy in their very execution. I've never, to the best of my knowledge, succeeded at an OBE attempt right after burning my energy reserves on "energy-raising" activities.
If all the sleep-deprived people on this forum would commit to getting at least 8 hours of sleep every night, and then DO IT, they'd have more success in their otherworldy endeavors!
My two cents!
Tisha
"As Above, So Below"
Raise your energy levels by getting some SLEEP. Actually, get a LOT of sleep. Most people fall asleep during OBE attempts because they don't have enough energy to stay awake.
Energy raising activities - - visualizing cones of power, psi balls, NEW, etc., are good exercises . . . sort of like working out in the gym. They are very important! But remember, they use up energy in their very execution. I've never, to the best of my knowledge, succeeded at an OBE attempt right after burning my energy reserves on "energy-raising" activities.
If all the sleep-deprived people on this forum would commit to getting at least 8 hours of sleep every night, and then DO IT, they'd have more success in their otherworldy endeavors!
My two cents!
Tisha
"As Above, So Below"
Title: Energy Raising For APing--Newbie Questions
Post by: Zarklon on December 03, 2002, 09:54:06
Post by: Zarklon on December 03, 2002, 09:54:06
I understand .. doesnt your energy "level" work like this ?
Imagine a cup of water .. filled half way.. the half way mark is your MAX energy limit .. when you do energy raising .. the cup starts to empty below the half way mark .. when it fills up .. the bup is now a little past the half way mark , increasing your MAX energy level.
Is that how it works ? I do get a lot of sleep on the weekends. I'll sleep from .. ohh... 4am . to ... 6 PM! thats like 15 hours give or take... sometimes more than that.. So I'm not really sleep deprived hehe. What would you recommend doing say.. during school classes that doesnt involve much meditation .. if any at all ... I wanna do energy raising in any little moment of spare time i have.
What do you guys think I should do ?
Imagine a cup of water .. filled half way.. the half way mark is your MAX energy limit .. when you do energy raising .. the cup starts to empty below the half way mark .. when it fills up .. the bup is now a little past the half way mark , increasing your MAX energy level.
Is that how it works ? I do get a lot of sleep on the weekends. I'll sleep from .. ohh... 4am . to ... 6 PM! thats like 15 hours give or take... sometimes more than that.. So I'm not really sleep deprived hehe. What would you recommend doing say.. during school classes that doesnt involve much meditation .. if any at all ... I wanna do energy raising in any little moment of spare time i have.
What do you guys think I should do ?
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Title: Energy Raising For APing--Newbie Questions
Post by: wonderboy on December 03, 2002, 12:54:27
Post by: wonderboy on December 03, 2002, 12:54:27
Zarklon,
Its either in the New Energy Ways treatise on this site, or in Astral Dynamics that RB specifically mentions that this is not a visualisation exercise, but much more of a feeling. For example, as I'm sure you have done or are about to do when you activate that first secondary energy port on your thumb or your big toe, you should feel what I like to call a starburst sensation. It tingles, and eventually if you do it long enough throbs. The only thing that you visualise really is the rubbing of your finger over the area or the other 'wrapping' techniques and the such described in his book. The energy is not visualised, but felt. Feel the tingling sensation spread outwards from your activated chakras and move that tingly sensation up your legs etc. etc.
I hope that helps
take care,
Wonderboy
Its either in the New Energy Ways treatise on this site, or in Astral Dynamics that RB specifically mentions that this is not a visualisation exercise, but much more of a feeling. For example, as I'm sure you have done or are about to do when you activate that first secondary energy port on your thumb or your big toe, you should feel what I like to call a starburst sensation. It tingles, and eventually if you do it long enough throbs. The only thing that you visualise really is the rubbing of your finger over the area or the other 'wrapping' techniques and the such described in his book. The energy is not visualised, but felt. Feel the tingling sensation spread outwards from your activated chakras and move that tingly sensation up your legs etc. etc.
I hope that helps
take care,
Wonderboy
Title: Energy Raising For APing--Newbie Questions
Post by: Zarklon on December 04, 2002, 15:34:47
Post by: Zarklon on December 04, 2002, 15:34:47
ahh I see now .. I've been doing it and I can start to feel the tingling.
You know.. I've checked out some stuff about Phasing to get into the astral and I heard from somehwere that you cant get into the physical plane from phasing ..or you cant get into the real time zone or something. Is this true?
I ask this cause , I'm now trying to figure out how energy building will help me other than allowing me to be able to stay out of my body longer. Whats the reason behind not being able to change planes when you phase?
You know.. I've checked out some stuff about Phasing to get into the astral and I heard from somehwere that you cant get into the physical plane from phasing ..or you cant get into the real time zone or something. Is this true?
I ask this cause , I'm now trying to figure out how energy building will help me other than allowing me to be able to stay out of my body longer. Whats the reason behind not being able to change planes when you phase?
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Title: Energy Raising For APing--Newbie Questions
Post by: slydeni on December 04, 2002, 16:15:35
Post by: slydeni on December 04, 2002, 16:15:35
Zarklon...hello there
I am fairly new to this site and OBE...had about 8 of them so far in a year. But I have been doing energy work, meditation, etc for a while...and I think - if you have not already - you should definitley read Astral Dynamics. Get it at Borders or wherever...but its great for energy work.
I agree with Wonderboy on his starburst explanation. You use a bit of visualization if you like in the beginning to stimulate the area you wanna start on (i.e. thumb joints, or big toe joints) with stirring actions, or some kinda paintbrush sorta motion (all these are well explained in AD). Then you'll begin feeling (unless you have some blockage...in which case you should definitley read AD to find how to get through this) some kinda sensation. I understand it differs from person to person. My sensation is kindof a very intense tickly pressure thing (lol). But you'll know it when you get it. Then you focus on that feeling...cultivate it...let it grow and then you have successfully stimulated your secondary site...at this point you can do a number of things...move it around your feet, into your legs, up your back...etc. But!!! Definitely read Astral Dynamics because there are...mmm...things you should be aware of when doing energy work - not really worries, just do's and dont's...to get the most out of it. Good luck to you-
lotsa love
sly
I am fairly new to this site and OBE...had about 8 of them so far in a year. But I have been doing energy work, meditation, etc for a while...and I think - if you have not already - you should definitley read Astral Dynamics. Get it at Borders or wherever...but its great for energy work.
I agree with Wonderboy on his starburst explanation. You use a bit of visualization if you like in the beginning to stimulate the area you wanna start on (i.e. thumb joints, or big toe joints) with stirring actions, or some kinda paintbrush sorta motion (all these are well explained in AD). Then you'll begin feeling (unless you have some blockage...in which case you should definitley read AD to find how to get through this) some kinda sensation. I understand it differs from person to person. My sensation is kindof a very intense tickly pressure thing (lol). But you'll know it when you get it. Then you focus on that feeling...cultivate it...let it grow and then you have successfully stimulated your secondary site...at this point you can do a number of things...move it around your feet, into your legs, up your back...etc. But!!! Definitely read Astral Dynamics because there are...mmm...things you should be aware of when doing energy work - not really worries, just do's and dont's...to get the most out of it. Good luck to you-
lotsa love
sly
Title: Energy Raising For APing--Newbie Questions
Post by: Zarklon on December 02, 2002, 22:33:04
Post by: Zarklon on December 02, 2002, 22:33:04
Hmm.. This should be some easy questions that I just have to get clarified before I start working on my energy building.
First , I'll tell you why I'm interested in building my energy up. Mostly , astral projection.. secondly though , I found out about Ki balls or .. Psi balls .. I'de like to experiment with those things. I am starting to understand how hard telekinesis is and I hope to achive something with it.
I'm not sure how to raise energy though .. is it through visualization? Or is it through feeling parts of your body like .. trying to feel your toes. . then bringing that awareness to your angles .. , shins .. knees .. thighs .. and higher ? Is that all you do really is focus on those parts of your body and your energy will start moving in your body? I'm going to get more into the NEW energy ways but I'm having trouble understanding how the energy is actually being built by doing those thing? By body awareness.. I've only gotten a quarter of the way through it. Also , I read things about , if you stand up , and imagine roots from your feet going into the earth ..its kinda like being recharged or something , is this supposed to cause and tingling , warmth , coldness ? I dont know.
If anyone could sum up how energy is built and what activities accomplish it , I'de really aprecciate it.. I try to make Ki balls and Psi balls just for fun and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to feel my awareness of my body up until my hands and imagine that awareness leaving through my palms to create the ball or what .. Same goes with astral projection.. when I lay down and imagine my body awareness going to different parts of my body ... how is that raising energy ? Or .. is that just doing somethign with the energy you already have? I guess I'm not sure how to use the energy I have or how to gain more of it to increase my Max .. so to speak. I think this is a vital key to my projecting .. if I could do energy raising up until I get vibrations , I may be able to get a better understanding of the exit sensations.
Again thanks for putting up with my noob stuff heh.
First , I'll tell you why I'm interested in building my energy up. Mostly , astral projection.. secondly though , I found out about Ki balls or .. Psi balls .. I'de like to experiment with those things. I am starting to understand how hard telekinesis is and I hope to achive something with it.
I'm not sure how to raise energy though .. is it through visualization? Or is it through feeling parts of your body like .. trying to feel your toes. . then bringing that awareness to your angles .. , shins .. knees .. thighs .. and higher ? Is that all you do really is focus on those parts of your body and your energy will start moving in your body? I'm going to get more into the NEW energy ways but I'm having trouble understanding how the energy is actually being built by doing those thing? By body awareness.. I've only gotten a quarter of the way through it. Also , I read things about , if you stand up , and imagine roots from your feet going into the earth ..its kinda like being recharged or something , is this supposed to cause and tingling , warmth , coldness ? I dont know.
If anyone could sum up how energy is built and what activities accomplish it , I'de really aprecciate it.. I try to make Ki balls and Psi balls just for fun and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to feel my awareness of my body up until my hands and imagine that awareness leaving through my palms to create the ball or what .. Same goes with astral projection.. when I lay down and imagine my body awareness going to different parts of my body ... how is that raising energy ? Or .. is that just doing somethign with the energy you already have? I guess I'm not sure how to use the energy I have or how to gain more of it to increase my Max .. so to speak. I think this is a vital key to my projecting .. if I could do energy raising up until I get vibrations , I may be able to get a better understanding of the exit sensations.
Again thanks for putting up with my noob stuff heh.
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