If anyone reading this can etheric project at will anytime please send me a private message. I am seeking someone to help me with a little scientific research which would be mutually beneficial. Thanks.
I highly doubt you'll find anyone here who will take you up on your offer.
EP's are one thing beginners seem to a experience initially. Why don't you learn the art yourself and obtain the relevant info you seek?
The basics require you to stay mentally awake as your body falls to sleep. Once you do this the rest is natural and your instincts tell you what to do.
Be determined and have no fear of anything you experience, this will test you. There's no danger at all despite the crxp on some sites.
A 4 year old can do what you want, its that safe.
Give it a go, what have you got to lose?
Quote from: Szaxx on February 24, 2015, 22:58:45
EP's are one thing beginners seem to a experience initially. Why don't you learn the art yourself and obtain the relevant info you seek?
The basics require you to stay mentally awake as your body falls to sleep. Once you do this the rest is natural and your instincts tell you what to do.
Be determined and have no fear of anything you experience, this will test you. There's no danger at all despite the crxp on some sites.
A 4 year old can do what you want, its that safe.
Give it a go, what have you got to lose?
I tried, unfortunately I was not successful.
Why not kinda open up here what is it you really want. That might be more helpful for you.
Quote from: Bluefirephoenix on February 25, 2015, 09:42:17
Why not kinda open up here what is it you really want. That might be more helpful for you.
There was nothing dishonest about my post.
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The research is looking into the vibrational relation of etheric and physical materials. I'm looking for someone to tell me the physical materials that are more dense when felt while on the etheric plane obviously to find out which physical materials have the highest vibration.
Quote from: vegaone on February 24, 2015, 23:42:36
I tried, unfortunately I was not successful.
Stick around then. Learn what you can. We can definitely help you learn... but YOU have to be willing and dedicated to learn it.
Quote from: vegaone on February 25, 2015, 12:11:14
The research is looking into the vibrational relation of etheric and physical materials. I'm looking for someone to tell me the physical materials that are more dense when felt while on the etheric plane obviously to find out which physical materials have the highest vibration.
I think it would be absolutely fabulous to get done an unbiased scientific project dealing with NP reality, which would clarify a bit more what NP is about. However, you need to understand that today's science is absolutely closed-minded in such matters. If you intend to do an actual project including presentation of results to an audience (which I somehow got an impression you might be considering, perhaps because of the phrasing "scientific research"), you will have to think about what audience to choose. More likely than not, you will be laughed at and your findings will be disregarded. An example is the Monroe Institute: no-one takes them seriously, except for people like us, who do not form an academic but rather a spiritual community.Eeven though some of us do have an academic background in a different area, but then we usually do not present our NP experiences to our academic community, for it would accomplish nothing. In my opinion, the scientific community must evolve a bit further in order to be able to acknowledge these things in an unbiased manner and this will surely take some more time. Currently, lucid dreams as a product of mere brain activity are as far as they are willing to go.
However, if this is not the case and you intend to conduct the research for yourself, then go ahead. However, you will find that the way people perceive NP reality is very different and individual. Therefore, I am not sure this is the right topic to research. You can learn the art and seek your answer on your own but then others may come to different conclusions. Maybe I misunderstood you about what exactly you want to find out and I am sorry if I did (would you mind elaborating?) but if you want to look into vibrations of physical materials, then there are perhaps better ways to get the answer than going NP. Have you considered using conventional scientific methods?
Anyway, good luck with learning to go NP. I have yet to learn the art to go out there on purpose, but so far, I have been concentrating on other things and lacking the determination to do this, which is crucial, as Xanth has pointed out. But I know I will get it done eventually and you will too, if you really want!
At the moment I don't think it has any effect on the science community if you provide even the most infallible evidence. They will just decide your methodology was flawed or you are a hoaxer.
I also don't think it matters who does the experiment. You see noted scientists try to investigate this stuff and as soon as they find out for themselves that it is real they lose all credibility in the scientific community and they just become another woo woo crackpot.
Quote from: floriferous on February 25, 2015, 18:41:36
At the moment I don't think it has any effect on the science community if you provide even the most infallible evidence. They will just decide your methodology was flawed or you are a hoaxer.
I also don't think it matters who does the experiment. You see noted scientists try to investigate this stuff and as soon as they find out for themselves that it is real they lose all credibility in the scientific community and they just become another woo woo crackpot.
Yes, exactly. This is what I hate about science. It claims to be striving for new knowledge, breaking dogmas and explaining things, but it very often creates its own silly dogmas, which it sticks to no matter what and then it takes a hell lot of energy to shatter these dogmas and to move forward with the knowledge (many scientists throughout the history were laughed at and are now praised). But it only leads to a creation of a new dogma and the cycle can be then merrily repeated. Unfortunately, this applies not only to spiritual, but also to findings that can cause money losses to certain groups, which then supress them.
But if you want to research these things for let's say your own knowledge and to make things clearer to yourself and to people who are open-minded, it might still be a good idea to use a proper scientific methodology. Critical thinking, statistical evidence and so on still have their merit, even though your audience is not academic.
The modern day scientific "religion" is as bad as any other really.
I did not mean to imply that you were being dishonest. However, we generally turn off the telepathy when we're on here so you must express yourself explicitly in writing :-)
The scientific religion rather less open minded than most religions actually, and not nearly as much fun.... Lets face it when did scientists have potluck suppers and pancake breakfasts